Monday, January 7, 2013

"When They Kill A President," by Roger Craig

"When They Kill A President," by Roger Craig

unpublished manuscript written by a man who *didn't* change his story

Roger Craig was a deputy Sheriff in Dallas at the time of the assassination

of President Kennedy. He was a member of a group of men from Dallas County

Sheriff James Eric "Bill" Decker's office that was directed to stand out in

front of the Sheriff's office on Main Street (at the corner of Houston) and

"take no part whatsoever in the security of that motorcade." Once he heard

the first shot, Roger Craig immediately bolted towards Houston Street. His

participation in the formative hours of the investigation during the rest

of that day and into the evening included observations and experiences that

would have singlehandedly destroyed the Warren Commission fairy tale before

a grand jury or a Congressional investigation.

Roger Craig was named the Dallas Sheriff's Department "Officer of the Year"

in 1960 by the Dallas Traffic Commission. He received four promotions

while he was deputy Sheriff. Among the most important events he witnessed:

* at approximately 12:40 p.m., deputy Craig was standing on the

south side of Elm Street when he heard a shrill whistle coming

from the north side of Elm and turned to see a man--wearing

faded blue trousers and a long sleeved work shirt made of some

type of grainy material--come running down the grassy knoll

from the direction of the TSBD. He saw a light green Rambler

station wagon coming slowly west on Elm Street, pull over to

the north curb and pick up the man coming down the hill. By

this time the traffic was too heavy for him to be able to reach

them before the car drove away going west on Elm.

* after witnessing the above scene, deputy Craig ran to the

command post at Elm and Houston to report the incident to the

authorities. When he got there and asked who was involved in

the investigation, a man turned to him and said "I'm with the

Secret Service." Craig recounted what he had just seen. This

"Secret Service" man showed little interest in Craig's

description of the people leaving, but seemed extremely

interested in the description of the Rambler to the degree

this was the only part of the recounting that he wrote down.

(On 12/22/67, Roger Craig learned from Jim Garrison that this

man's name was Edgar Eugene Bradley, a right wing preacher from

North Hollywood, California and part-time assistant to Carl

McIntire, the fundamentalist minister who had founded the

American Counsel of Christian Churches. Then-governor Ronald

Reagan refused to grant the extradition request from Garrison

for the indictment of Bradley during the New Orleans Probe.)

* immediately after this Craig was told by Sheriff Decker to help

the police search the TSBD. Deputy Craig was one of the two

people to find the three rifle cartridges on the floor beneath

the window on the southeast corner of the sixth floor. All

three were no more than an inch apart and all were lined up in

the same direction. One of the three shells was crimped on the

end which would have held the slug. It had not been stepped on

but merely crimped over on one small portion of the rim. The

rest of that end was perfectly round.

* he was present at when the rifle was found, and, along with

Deputy Eugene Boone who had first spotted the weapon, was

immediately joined by police Lt. Day, Homicide Capt. Fritz, and

deputy constable Seymour Weitzman, an expert on weapons who had

been in the sporting goods business for many years and was

familiar with all domestic and foreign makes. Lt. Day briefly

inspected the rifle and handed it to Capt. Fritz who asked if

anyone knew what kind of rifle it was. After a close

examination, Weitzman declared it to be a 7.65 German Mauser.

Capt. Fritz agreed with him.

* at the moment when Capt. Fritz concurred with Weitzman's

identification of the rifle, an unknown Dallas police officer

came running up the stairs and advised Capt. Fritz that a

Dallas policeman had been shot in the Oak Cliff area. Craig

instinctively looked at his watch. The time was 1:06 p.m.

(The Warren Commission attempted to move this time back beyond

1:15 to plausible claim Oswald had reached the Tippit murder

scene in a more humanly possible time-frame than would be the

case if Tippit had the encounter with his murderer any earlier.)

* Later in the afternoon Craig received word of Oswald's arrest

and that he was suspected of being involved in the Kennedy's

murder. He immediately thought of the man running down the

grassy knoll and made a telephone call to Capt. Will Fritz to

gave him the description of the man he had seen. Fritz said

Craig's description sounded like the man they had and asked

him to come take a look. When he saw Oswald in Fritz's

personal office Deputy Craig confirmed that this was indeed

the man, dressed in the same way, that he had seen running

down the knoll and into the Rambler. They went into the

office together and Fritz told Oswald,

"This man (pointing to me) saw you leave." At which time

the suspect replied, "I told you people I did." Fritz,

apparently trying to console Oswald, said, "Take it easy,

son--we're just trying to find out what happened." Fritz

then said, "What about the car?" Oswald replied, leaning

forward on Fritz' desk, "That station wagon belongs to

Mrs. Paine--don't try to drag her into this." Sitting

back in his chair, Oswald said very disgustedly and very

low, "Everybody will know who I am now."

The fact that Fritz said "car" and this elicited Oswald's

outburst about a "station wagon"--that no one else had

mentioned--confirms the veracity of Roger Craig's story.

* junior counsel for the Warren Commission Dave Belin, was the

man who interview Roger Craig in April of 1964. After the

being questioned in what Craig recounts as a very manipulative

and selective way, Belin asked "Do you want to follow or waive

your signature or sign now?" Craig noted, "Since there was

nothing but a tape recording and a stenographer's note book,

there was obviously nothing to sign. All other testimony which

I have read (a considerable amount) included an explanation

that the person could waive his signature then or his statement

would be typed and he would be notified when it was ready for

signature. Belin did not say this to me." After Craig first

saw the transcript in January of 1968 he discoverd that the

testimony he gave had been changed in fourteen different


Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig never changed his account of what he witnessed

and experienced on Friday, November 22, 1963. (The passage where he

describes the methodology employed by David Belin in selectively recording

his testimony is highly illuminating and provides us with a glimpse of how

the "W.C." interviewed witnesses in a very controlled way.) He remained

convinced, for the rest of this life, that the man entering the Rambler

station wagon was Lee Harvey Oswald. He was fired from the Sheriff's

office on July 4, 1967, and from that day forward he never again could

find steady work. Multiple attempts were made on his life, his wife

finally left him, and in the end, he was alleged to have shot himself to

death on May 15, 1975.

the following is an unpublished manuscript written by the late Roger Craig:




Roger Craig - (c) 1971

This book is dedicated to my wife Molly,

who meant it when she said

"for better or worse."


Our president John Kennedy went down to Dallas town

Where the hired assassins waited and there they shot him down,

Because he dreamed of peace and plenty and he talked it 'round

His dream goes marching on.

The Dallas County Court House at 505 Main Street was indeed a

unique place to come to hear what was WRONG with John F. Kennedy

and his policies as President of these United States.

This building housed the elite troops of the Dallas County

Sheriff's Department (of which I was one), who, with blind

obedience, followed the orders of their Great White Father: BILL

DECKER, Sheriff of Dallas County.

From these elite troops came the most bitter verbal attacks on

President Kennedy. They spoke very strongly against his policies

concerning the Bay of Pigs incident and the Cuban Missile crisis.

They seemed to resent very much the fact that President Kennedy was

a Catholic. I do not know why this was such a critical issue with

many of the deputies but they did seem to hold this against

President Kennedy.

The concession stand in the lobby of the court house was the

best place to get into a discussion concerning the President. The

old man who ran the stand evidenced a particular hatred for

President Kennedy. He seemed to go out of his way to drag anyone

who came by his stand into a discussion about the President. His

name is J. C. Kiser.

He was a little man with a short mustache and glasses that he

wore right on the end of his nose. He was a particularly good

friend of Sheriff Decker, and he held the concession in the lobby

for many years. Like Decker, he was unopposed when his lease came

up for renewal. It was common knowledge that Bill Decker made it

possible for him to remain there as long as he wished. This sick

little man not only had a deep hatred for John F. Kennedy, he also

hated the black people, even those who spent their money at his

stand. He would often curse them as they walked away after making

a purchase from him. He flatly refused to make telephone change

for them even though he would be simultaneously making change for a

white person.

*This little man* was a typical example of the atmosphere that

lingered in this building that housed LAW AND ORDER in Dallas


Many of the deputies had a dislike for the President--some more

so than others. However, there *were* those who would not degrade

themselves by taking verbal punches at our President. One of these

was Hiram Ingram. Although devoted to Bill Decker, he was also a

good friend of mine. We often discussed the political debates that

took place in the lobby. Hiram had a great dislike for this sick

little man who seemed to lead the attack on the President. He also

had little respect for the deputies, attorneys and court house

employees who tolerated or even agreed with this philosophy of

attacking John F. Kennedy.

Hiram Ingram was a small man--in stature. He was always ready

with a friendly smile and greeting. He began his association with

the County during the Bonnie and Clyde era--when he was an

ambulance driver and inside employee at a local funeral home. In

fact, Hiram prepared Bonnie and Clyde for burial after they were

brought back to Dallas from the ambush in Louisiana.

Hiram and I were very close--one of those friendships which

develops when some people first meet. I had known Hiram for about

four years at the time of the assassination. He was working in the

Civil Division and shortly after November 22, 1963 he had a heart

attack. When he returned to work Decker put him on the Bond Desk,

where I would later be and work closely with Hiram. I worked the

day shift one month and the evening shift the following month.

Hiram worked only evenings. So every other month we worked

together. This gave us time to talk and discuss the events in

Dallas and even the Sheriff's Office itself. The Department was

not well organized.

To clear some of the bonds and bondsmen we would have to call

Decker at home--no matter what time of the day or night--for his

approval or ANY decision. This applied only to certain bondsmen.

Decker had his chosen few who were not questioned. Hiram was a

very dependable employee and should not have had to clear the minor

decisions with our Great White Father, Bill Decker.

As the months passed and Hiram and I worked together we built a

mutual respect for each other. When Decker fired me on July 4,

1967 Hiram was infuriated but, like any employee of Decker's, he

couldn't say anything in my defense for fear of having *his*

employment cut short or his reputation ruined. One of Decker's

favorite past times was ruining reputations.

Our friendship did not end with my termination. We continued to

talk from time to time and Hiram was very helpful when Penn Jones

wanted information concerning records at the Sheriff's office.

However, in March of 1968 Hiram explained to me that information

was getting more difficult to get for some reason. Fortunately by

this time I had already supplied Penn Jones and Bill Boxley

(investigator for Jim Garrison) with much information from Hiram.

About two weeks later, near the end of March 1968, I heard that

Hiram had fallen at home and broken his hip and was in the

hospital. I went to see my good buddy to cheer him up and received

the shock of my life. Hiram was under oxygen and could not have

*any* visitors. Three days later he was dead--of cancer. He had

been working just prior to the fall. I think that we owe a debt of

gratitude to this great man who, in his own quiet way, helped us

all so much.

Thus . . . we have the atmosphere that was to greet the

President of the United States upon his arrival in Dallas.

However, things were to get even worse before he arrived.

The battle ground had been picked and the UNwelcome mat was out

for President Kennedy. Unknown to most of us, the rest of the plan

was being completed. The patsy had been chosen and placed in the

building across from the court house--where he could not deny his

presence *after it was all over*. This was done with the apparent

approval and certainly with the knowledge of our co-workers, the

F.B.I., since they later admitted that they knew Lee Harvey Oswald

was employed at the School Book Depository Building located on the

corner of Elm Street and Houston Street across from the Sheriff's


The security had been arranged by the Secret Service and the

Dallas Police--our boys in blue. The final touch was put on by

Sheriff James Eric (Bill) Decker. On the morning of November 22,

1963 the patrolmen in the districts which make up the Dallas County

Sheriff's Patrol Division were left in the field, ignorant of what

was going on in the downtown area, which was just as well. Decker

was not going to LET them do anything anyway.

About 10:30 a.m. November 22, 1963, Bill Decker called into his

office what I will refer to as his street people--plain-clothes

men, detectives and warrant men, myself included--and told us that

President Kennedy was coming to Dallas and that the motorcade would

come down Main Street. He then advised us that we were to stand

out in front of the building, 505 Main Street and represent the

Sheriff's Office. We were to take NO part whatsoever in the

security of that motorcade. (WHY, JAMES ERIC?) So . . . the stage

had been set, all the pawns were in place, the security had been

withdrawn from that one vulnerable location. Come John F. Kennedy,

come to Elm and Houston Streets in Dallas, Texas and take your

place in history!

The time was 12:15 p.m. I was standing in front of the court

house at 505 Main Street. Deputy Sheriff Jim Ramsey was standing

behind me. We were waiting for the President of the United States.

I had a feeling of pride that I was going to be not more than four

feet from the President but deep inside something kept gnawing at

me. I said to Jim Ramsey, "He's late." Jim's reply stunned me.

He said, "Maybe somebody will shoot the son of a bitch." Then I

realized the crowd was hostile. The men about me felt that they

were FORCED to acknowledge his presence. Although he was the

President, they were making statements like, "Why does he have to

come to Dallas?"

Something else was bothering me . . . being a trained officer, I

always looked for anything which might be amiss about any situation

with which I was confronted. Suddenly I knew what was wrong.

There were no officers guarding the intersections or controlling

the crowd. My mind flashed back to the meeting in Decker's office

that morning, then back to the lack of security in this area.

Suddenly the motorcade approached and President Kennedy was

smiling and waving and for a moment I relaxed and fell into the

happy mood the President was displaying. The car turned the corner

onto Houston Street. I was still looking at the rest of the people

in the party. I was soon to be shocked back into reality. The

President had passed and was turning west on Elm Street . . . as if

there were no people, no cars, the only thing in my world at that

moment was a rifle shot! I bolted toward Houston Street. I was

fifteen steps from the corner--before I reached it two more shots

had been fired. Telling myself that it wasn't true and at the same

time knowing that it was, I continued to run. I ran across Houston

Street and beside the pond, which is on the west side of Houston.

I pushed a man out of my way and he fell into the pond. I ran down

the grass between Main and Elm. People were lying all over the

ground. I thought, "My God, they've killed a woman and child," who

were lying beside the gutter on the South side of Elm Street. I

checked them and they were alright. I saw a Dallas Police Officer

run up the grassy knoll and go behind the picket fence near the

railroad yards. I followed and behind the fence was complete

confusion and hysteria.

I began to question people when I noticed a woman in her early

thirties attempting to drive out of the parking lot. She was in a

brown 1962 or 1963 Chevrolet. I stopped her, identified myself and

placed her under arrest. She told me that she HAD to leave and I

said, "Lady, you're not going anywhere." I turned her over to

Deputy Sheriff C. I. (Lummy) Lewis and told him the circumstances

of the arrest. Officer Lewis told me that he would take her to

Sheriff Decker and take care of her car.

The parking lot behind the picket fence was of little importance

to most of the investigators at the scene except that the shots

were thought to have come from there.

Let us examine this parking lot. It was leased by Deputy

Sheriff B. D. Gossett. He in turn rented parking space by the

month to the deputies who worked in the court house, except for

official vehicles. I rented one of these spaces from Gossett when

I was a dispatcher working days or evenings. I paid Gossett $3.00

per month and was given a key to the lot. An 3 interesting point

is that the lot had an iron bar across the only entrance and exit

(which were the same). The bar had a chain and lock on it. The

only people having access to it were deputies with keys. Point:

how did the woman gain access and, what is more important, who was

she and WHY did she HAVE to leave?

This was to be the beginning of the never-ending cover up. Had

I known then what I know now, *I* would have personally questioned

the woman and impounded and searched her car. I had no way of

knowing that an officer, with whom I had worked for four years, was

capable of losing a thirty year old woman and a three thousand

pound automobile. To this day Officer Lewis does not know who she

was, where she came from or what happened to her. STRANGE!

Meanwhile, back at the parking lot, I continued to help the

Dallas Officers restore order. When things were somewhat calmer I

began to question the people who were standing at the top of the

grassy knoll, asking if anyone had seen anything strange or unusual

before or during the President's fatal turn onto Elm Street.

Several people indicated to me that they thought the shots came

from the area of the grassy knoll or behind the picket fence. My

next reliable witness came forward in the form of Mr. Arnold

Rowland. Mr. Rowland and his wife were standing at the top of the

grassy knoll on the north side of Elm Street. Arnold Rowland began

telling me his account of what he saw before the assassination. He

said approximately fifteen minutes before President Kennedy arrived

he was looking around and something caught his eye. It was a white

man standing by the 6th floor window of the Texas School Book

Depository Building in the southeast corner, holding a rifle

equipped with a telescopic sight and in the southwest corner of the

sixth floor was a colored male pacing back and forth. Needless to

say, I was astounded by his statement. I asked Mr. Rowland why he

had not reported this incident before and he told me that he

thought they were secret service agents--an obvious conclusion for

a layman. Rowland continued. He told me that he looked back at

the sixth floor a few minutes later and the man with the rifle was

gone so he dismissed it from his mind.

I was writing all this down in my notebook and when I finished I

advised Mr. and Mrs. Rowland that I would have to detain them for a

statement. I had started toward the Sheriff's Office with them

when lo and behold I was approached by Officer C. L. (Lummy) Lewis,

who asked me "What ya got"--a favorite expression of most

investigators with Bill Decker. I explained the situation to him

and told him of Rowland's account. Being the Good Samaritan he

was, Officer Lewis offered to take the Rowlands off my hands and

get their statements. This worked out a little better than my

first arrest. The Warren Commission decided not to accept Arnold

Rowland's story but at least they did not lose them. Hang in

there, Lummy!

The time was approximately 12:40 p.m. I had just turned the

Rowlands over to Lummy Lewis when I met E. R. (Buddy) Walthers,

a small man with a very arrogant manner. He was, without a doubt,

Decker's favorite pupil. He wore dark-rimmed glasses and a small-

brimmed hat because effecting them meant that he would resemble

Bill Decker. Walthers had worked for the Yellow Cab Company of

Dallas before coming to the Sheriff's Office, about a year before I

began working there. His termination from the cab company was the

result of several shortages of money. He came to the Sheriff's

Department as a patrolman but because of his close connection with

Justice of the Peace Bill Richburg--one of Decker's closest allies

--Buddy soon was promoted to detective. He had absolutely no

ability as a law enforcement officer. However, he was fast

climbing the ladder of success by lying to Decker and squealing on

his fellow officers.

Walthers' ambition was to become Sheriff of Dallas County and he

would do anything or anybody to reach that goal. It was very clear

Buddy enjoyed more job security with Decker than anyone else did.

Decker carried him for years by breaking a case for him or taking a

case which had been broken by another officer and putting Walthers'

name on the arrest sheet. Soon after he was promoted to detective

he became intimate with such people as W. 0. Bankston, the

flamboyant Oldsmobile dealer in Dallas who furnished Decker with a

new Fire Engine Red Olds every year and who was arrested several

times for Driving while Intoxicated but never served any jail time.

Buddy's acquaintances also included several independent oil

operators throughout Texas, several anti-Castro Cubans and many

underworld characters--especially women! He was frequently

crashing parties which were given by wealthy friends of Decker's--

of course while he was *on* duty. He often became drunk and

belligerent at these parties and at one point, when asked to leave,

he threatened to pull his gun on the host. This information can be

verified by Billy Courson, who was Buddy's partner at that time.

Walthers hit the big time when, in 1961, two Federal Narcotics

Agents came to Decker's office with charges that Buddy was growing

marijuana in the back yard of his home at 2527 Boyd Street in the

Oak Cliff section of Dallas. This could be considered conduct

unbecoming to a police officer--but not for Buddy! After a secret

meeting between the Federal Agents, Decker and Buddy, the matter

was dropped and--needless to say--covered up, thus enabling Buddy

to continue his career as Decker's Representative of Law and Order

in Dallas County.

However, the Dallas Police began receiving complaints that Buddy

was shaking down underworld characters for loot taken in several

burglaries and selling the stuff himself. After several reports

the Dallas Police began to investigate and, finally, obtained a

search warrant for Buddy's home. Their BIG mistake was securing

the warrant from Judge Richburg--which was bad enough--but Buddy's

wife also worked for Richburg and this made matters worse.

Strangely enough, they did not find anything. However, a few weeks

later they were a little more careful and made a surprise visit to

Buddy's home, where they indeed recovered such things as toasters,

clothing and various items--just as their informers had said. It

would seem they had him *this time*, wouldn't it? But not so.

Buddy explained that he had recovered the merchandise from where it

had been hidden and had not had time to make a report on them and

turn them in to the Property Room! The Dallas Police didn't buy

this story but the pressure was again brought to bear by our

Protector, Bill Decker, and the Dallas Police were left out in the

cold--no charges filed! They were certainly furious but what could

they do? If WE as citizens cannot fight the Establishment, how can

the Establishment fight the Establishment?

It was clear in my mind--and if the people with whom I worked

COULD talk, I am sure they would agree--that Buddy had a powerful

hold on Decker. I base this on the fact that Buddy's popularity

with Decker greatly increased after the assassination. Buddy was a

chronic liar--he was always telling Decker things he thought were

happening in the County which he was checking on. Things which he

was *not* doing. He also told Decker that he was in the theater

when Oswald was captured and that he, in fact, helped the Dallas

Police. This was completely untrue. Buddy never entered the Texas

Theater--his partner, Bill Courson, did.

Buddy also told Decker about a family of anti-Castro Cubans

living in the Oak Cliff area and said that he was watching them.

This part may have been true because we received the same

information from the Dallas Police Intelligence Division. But one

day Buddy made a visit to the house in Oak Cliff and when the

Police and Sheriff's Deputies went to question them a few days

later, they were gone. Did Buddy warn them? After all, he was

very, very close to Jack Ruby. In fact, every time Buddy was in

trouble with one of Jack Ruby's employees--especially Nancy

Perrin Rich--Decker would send Buddy to straighten things out and

put Nancy in her place--with the help of Judge Richburg. Touching

Jack Ruby was a no-no!

There were many other things which made Buddy suspect as a not-

so-law abiding lawman, such as the swimming pool he built in his

back yard (on *his* salary?). The concrete was furnished by a

local contractor free of charge. Buddy used many pills he carried

in the trunk of his unmarked squad car for trading with certain

underworld characters--pills for information. I learned from what

I consider a reliable source that these pills had been confiscated

(although no reports were made nor the pills turned in). Most of

those involved in this exchange were women. It would seem that

Buddy Walthers could not be terminated from the Sheriff's

Department, no matter what.

One incident in 1966 which would have resulted in the firing of

any other deputy occurred when Buddy was sent to Nevada to transfer

a suspect wanted in Dallas. It seemed Buddy was given a certain

amount of travel money which he lost at the gambling table in Las

Vegas. Broke and in trouble, Buddy called none other than W. O.

Bankston, who wired him enough money to bring his prisoner back to

Dallas. Many times I wondered who was REALLY Sheriff but Buddy was

about to reach the end of his rope.

In late 1968, when the Clay Shaw trial was being prepared, there

was talk of bringing Buddy to New Orleans to testify. Well, that

was a blow to the power which ruled Dallas. They could not have

this half-wit on the witness stand. When the word reached Dallas,

Decker was working on a double-murder which occurred in *his*

county and had a lead on the suspect in January of 1969. The Shaw

trial was scheduled for February and Decker sent Buddy and his

partner, Alvin Maddox (who was about as efficient as a nutty

professor), to a motel on Samuell Boulevard in Dallas to question

a Walter Cherry about the killings. Cherry was an escaped convict

and a suspect in the double-murder. Decker sent them to talk to

Cherry without a warrant. When they entered the room at the motel

Buddy was shot dead and Maddox wounded in the FOOT. Coincidence?

Maybe! At any rate Buddy had been silenced. One more point for


Back to November 22, 1963. As I have earlier stated, the time

was approximately 12:40 p.m. when I ran into Buddy Walthers. The

traffic was very heavy as Patrolman Baker (assigned to Elm and

Houston Streets) had left his post, allowing the traffic to travel

west on Elm Street. As we were scanning the curb I heard a shrill

whistle coming from the north side of Elm Street. I turned and saw

a white male in his twenties running down the grassy knoll from the

direction of the Texas School Book Depository Building. A light

green Rambler station wagon was coming slowly west on Elm Street.

The driver of the station wagon was a husky looking Latin, with

dark wavy hair, wearing a tan wind-breaker type jacket. He was

looking up at the man running toward him. He pulled over to the

north curb and picked up the man coming down the hill. I tried to

cross Elm Street to stop them and find out who they were. The

traffic was too heavy and I was unable to reach them. They drove

away going west on Elm Street.

In addition to noting that these two men were in an obvious

hurry, I realized they were the only ones not running TO the scene.

Everyone else was running to see whatever might be seen. The

suspect, as I will refer to him, who ran down the grassy knoll was

wearing faded blue trousers and a long sleeved work shirt made of

some type of grainy material. This will become very important to

me later on and very embarrassing to the authorities (F.B.I.,

Dallas Police and Warren Commission). I thought the incident

concerning the two men and the Rambler Station Wagon important

enough to bring it to the attention of the authorities at the

command post at Elm and Houston.

I ran to the front of the Texas School Book Depository where I

asked for anyone involved in the investigation. There was a man

standing on the steps of the Book Depository Building and he turned

to me and said, "I'm with the Secret Service." This man was about

40 years old, sandy-haired with a distinct cleft in his chin. He

was well-dressed in a gray business suit. I was naive enough at

the time to believe that the only people there were actually

officers--after all, this was the command post. I gave him the

information. He showed little interest in the persons leaving.

However, he seemed extremely interested in the description of the

Rambler. This was the only part of my statement which he wrote

down in his little pad he was holding. Point: Mrs. Ruth Paine,

the woman Marina Oswald lived with in Irving, Texas, owned a

Rambler station wagon, at that time, of this same color.

* * * * * *


From the book depository and of course that grassy knoll

And the Dal Tex building's shooter fulfilled his deadly role

The noon day sun was witness as they took their awful toll

His dream goes marching on.

I learned nothing of this "Secret Service Agent's" identity

until December 22, 1967 while we were living in New Orleans. The

television was on as I came home from work one night and there on

the screen was a picture of this man. I did not know what it was

all about until my wife told me that Jim Garrison had charged him

with being a part of the assassination plot. I called Jim Garrison

then and told him that this was the man I had seen in Dallas on

November 22, 1963. Jim then sent one of his investigators to see

me with a better picture which I identified. I then learned that

this man's name was EDGAR EUGENE BRADLEY. It was a relief to me to

know his name for I had been bothered by the fact that I had failed

to get his name when he had told me he was a Secret Service Agent

and I had given him my information. On the night of the

assassination when I had come home and discussed the day with my

wife I had, of course, told her of this encounter and my failure to

get his name.

As I finished talking with the Agent I was confronted by the

High Priest of Dallas County Politics, Field Marshal Bill Decker.

Decker had, apparently, been standing directly behind me and had

overheard what I was saying. He called me aside and informed me

that the suspect had already left the scene. (How did you know,

James Eric? You had just arrived.) Decker then told me to help

them (the police) search the Book Depository Building. Decker

turned toward his office across the street, then suddenly stopped,

looked at me and said "Somebody better take charge of this

investigation." Then he continued walking slowly toward his

office, indicating that it was *not* going to be him.

When I entered the Book Depository Building I was joined by

Deputy Sheriffs Eugene Boone and Luke Mooney. We went up the

stairs directly to the sixth floor. The room was very dark and a

thick layer of dust seemed to cover everything. We went to the

south side of the building, since this was the street side and

seemed the most logical place to start.

Luke Mooney and I reached the southeast corner at the same time.

We immediately found three rifle cartridges laying in such a way

that they looked as though they had been carefully and deliberately

placed there--in plain sight on the floor to the right of the

southeast corner window. Mooney and I examined the cartridges very

carefully and remarked how close together they were. The three of

them were no more than one inch apart and all were facing in the

same direction, a feat very difficult to achieve with a bolt action

rifle--or any rifle for that matter. One cartridge drew our

particular attention. It was crimped on the end which would have

held the slug. It had not been stepped on but merely crimped over

on one small portion of the rim. The rest of that end was

perfectly round.

Laying on the floor to the left of the same window was a small

brown paper lunch bag containing some well cleaned chicken bones.

I called across the room and summoned the Dallas Police I.D. man,

Lt. Day. When he arrived with his camera Mooney and I left the

window and started our search of the rest of the sixth floor.

We were told by Dallas Police to look for a rifle--something I

had already concluded might be there since the cartridges found

were, apparently, from a rifle. I was nearing the northwest corner

of the sixth floor when Deputy Eugene Boone called out, "here it

is." I was about eight feet from Boone, who was standing next to a

stack of cardboard boxes. The boxes were stacked so that there was

no opening between them except at the top. Looking over the top

and down the opening I saw a rifle with a telescopic sight laying

on the floor with the bolt facing upward. At this time Boone and I

were joined by Lt. Day of the Dallas Police Department and Dallas

Homicide Captain, Will Fritz. The rifle was retrieved by Lt. Day,

who activated the bolt, ejecting one live round of ammunition which

fell to the floor.

Lt. Day inspected the rifle briefly, then handed it to Capt.

Fritz who had a puzzled look on his face. Seymour Weitzman, a

deputy constable, was standing beside me at the time. Weitzman was

an expert on weapons. He had been in the sporting goods business

for many years and was familiar with all domestic and foreign

weapons. Capt. Fritz asked if anyone knew what kind of rifle it

was. Weitzman asked to see it. After a *close* examination (much

longer than Fritz or Day's examination) Weitzman declared that it

was a 7.65 German Mauser. Fritz agreed with him. Apparently,

someone at the Dallas Police Department also loses things but, at

least, they are more conscientious. They did replace it--even if

the replacement was made in a different country. (See Warren

Report for Italian Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 Caliber).

At that exact moment an unknown Dallas police officer came

running up the stairs and advised Capt. Fritz that a Dallas

policeman had been shot in the Oak Cliff area. I instinctively

looked at my watch. The time was 1:06 p.m. A token force of

uniformed officers was left to keep the sixth floor secure and

Fritz, Day, Boone, Mooney, Weitzman and I left the building.

On my way back to the Sheriff's Office I was nearly run down

several times by Dallas Police cars racing to the scene of the

shooting of a fellow officer. There were more police units at the

J. D. Tippit shooting than there were at President John F.

Kennedy's assassination.

Tippit had been instructed to patrol the Oak Cliff area along

with Dallas Police Unit #87 at 12:45 p.m. by the dispatcher. Unit

#87 immediately left Oak Cliff and went to the triple underpass,

leaving Tippit alone. Why? At 12:54 p.m., J. D. Tippit, Dallas

Police Unit #78, gave his location as Lancaster Blvd., and Eighth

St., some ten blocks from the place where he was to be killed. The

Dallas dispatcher called Tippit at 1:04 p.m. and received no

answer. He continued to call three times and there was still no

reply. Comparing this time with the time I received news of the

shooting of the police officer at 1:06 p.m., it is fair to assume

Tippit was dead or being killed between 1:04 and 1:06 p.m. This is

also corroborated by the eye witnesses at the Tippit killing, who

said he was shot between 1:05 and 1:08 p.m.

According to Officer Baker, Dallas Police, he talked to Oswald

at 12:35 p.m. in the lunch room of the Texas School Book

Depository. This would give Oswald 30 minutes or less to finish

his coke, leave the building, walk four blocks east on Elm Street,

catch a bus and ride it back west in heavy traffic for two blocks,

get off the bus and walk two more blocks west and turn south on

Lamar Street, walk four blocks and have a conversation with a cab

driver and a woman over the use of Whaley's (the cab driver) cab,

get into the cab and ride to 500 North Beckley Street, get out and

walk to 1026 North Beckley where his (Oswald's) room was located,

pick up something (?); and if that is not enough, Earlene Roberts,

the housekeeper where Oswald lived, testified that at 1:05 p.m.

Oswald was waiting for a bus in front of his rooming house and

FINALLY, to make him the fastest man on Earth, he walked to East

Tenth Street and Patton Street, several blocks away and killed J.

D. Tippit between 1:05 and 1:08 p.m. If he had not been arrested

when he was, it is my belief that Earl Warren and his Commission

would have had Lee Harvey Oswald eating dinner in Havana!

I was convinced on November 22, 1963, and I am still sure, that

the man entering the Rambler station wagon was Lee Harvey Oswald.

After entering the Rambler, Oswald and his companion would only

have had to drive six blocks west on Elm Street and they would have

been on Beckley Avenue and a straight shot to Oswald's rooming

house. The Warren Commission could not accept this even though it

*might* have given Oswald time to kill Tippit for having two men

involved would have made it a conspiracy!

As to Lee Harvey Oswald shooting J. D. Tippit, let us examine

the evidence: Dallas Police Unit #221 (Summers-refer-police radio

log) stated on the police radio that he had an "eye ball" witness

to the shooting. The suspect was a white male about twenty-seven,

five feet, eleven inches, black wavy hair, fair complexioned, (not

Oswald) wearing an Eisenhower-type jacket of light color, dark

trousers, and a white shirt, apparently armed with a .32 caliber,

dark-finish automatic pistol which he had in his right hand. (The

jacket strongly resembles that worn by the driver of the station


Dallas Police Unit #550 Car 2 was driven to the scene of the

Tippit murder by Sgt. Gerald Hill. He was accompanied by Bud

Owens, Dallas Police Department, and William F. Alexander,

Assistant D.A. for Dallas. Unit #550 Car 2 reported over the

police radio that the shells at the scene indicated that the

suspect was armed with a .38 caliber automatic. 38 automatic

shells and 38 revolver shells are distinctly different. (Oswald

allegedly had a 38 revolver in his possession when arrested?)

After much confusion in the Oak Cliff area the Dallas Police

were finally directed to the Texas Theater where the suspect was

reported to be. Several squads arrived at the theater and quickly

surrounded it. At the back door was none other than William F.

Alexander, Assistant D.A., and several Dallas Police officers with

guns drawn. While Dallas Police Officer McDonald and others

entered the theater and turned on the lights and the suspect was

pointed out to them, they started searching people SEVERAL rows in

front of Oswald, giving him a chance to run if he wanted to--right

into the blazing guns of waiting officers!

This man had to be stopped. He was the most dangerous criminal

in the history of the world. Here was a man who was able to go

from one location to another with the swiftness of Superman, to

change his physical characteristics at will and who pumped four

automatic slugs into a police officer with a *revolver*--indeed a

master criminal!

Well, back to the facts? Oswald was captured by Officer

McDonald, who was out cold from one blow from the suspect and woke

up to find he had arrested the suspect! (Nice going, Mac).

Later that afternoon I received word of the suspect's arrest and

the fact that he was suspected of being involved in the President's

death. I immediately thought of the man running down the grassy

knoll. I made a telephone call to Capt. Will Fritz and gave him

the description of the man I had seen and Fritz said, "that sounds

like the suspect we have. Can you come up and take a look at him?"

I arrived at Capt. Fritz office shortly after 4:30 p.m. I was

met by Agent Bookhout from the F.B.I., who took my name and place

of employment. The door to Capt. Fritz' personal office was open

and the blinds on the windows were closed, so that one had to look

through the doorway in order to see into the room. I looked

through the open door at the request of Capt. Fritz and identified

the man who I saw running down the grassy knoll and enter the

Rambler station wagon--and it WAS Lee Harvey Oswald.

Fritz and I entered his private office together. He told

Oswald, "This man (pointing to me) saw you leave." At which time

the suspect replied, "I told you people I did." Fritz, apparently

trying to console Oswald, said, "Take it easy, son--we're just

trying to find out what happened." Fritz then said, "What about

the car?" Oswald replied, leaning forward on Fritz' desk, "That

station wagon belongs to Mrs. Paine--don't try to drag her into

this." Sitting back in his chair, Oswald said very disgustedly and

very low, "Everybody will know who I am now."

At this time Capt. Fritz ushered me from his office, thanking

me. I walked away saddened but relieved that it was the end of the

day and I could go home, where I could try--at least for a little

while--to put the tragedy and the day's events out of my mind. I

was soon to find out that *my* troubles had only begun--for I had

seen and heard too much that fateful day.

Saturday, November 23, 1963, I spent the day at home talking to

my wife, Molly, about Friday's events and playing with Deanna and

Terry, not knowing that the very next day would bring another

tragic event which would affect not only my job but my entire


Like many other Americans, I was watching television on Sunday

morning, November 24, 1963 when Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald.

I would like to clear up one thing at this point concerning Ruby's

access to the basement of the city jail. The Warren Commission

concluded that Dallas Police Officer R. E. Vaughn, through

negligence, let Jack Ruby into the basement. What they did not say

is that Officer Vaughn was questioned extensively after the

shooting and even submitted to a polygraph test, which he passed,

showing that he *did not* let Jack Ruby go down the Main Street

Ramp of the city jail. I have known Officer Vaughn for many years

and feel that he is honest, conscientious and one of the finest

people I have ever known. I feel that he was unjustly accused.

However, bombing Vaughn was the easiest way out for Earl Warren's


* * * * * *


The industrial and military complex can't survive

Without their little horror wars they artfully contrive.

If they push us to the big one then we won't come out alive

His dream goes marching on.

Things were fairly normal for me for the next few months, with

the exception of curious persons who popped into the Sheriff's

Office from time to time to ask me questions about the


On the first anniversary of the assassination a team of newsmen

from NBC New York came to Dallas. They wanted to do a documentary

on the assassination and they contacted Jim Kerr of the "Dallas

Times Herald," who told them of me.

Jim approached me and said that the NBC people were interested

in what I had to say and would I talk to them? Jim Kerr indicated

to me that he had it all set up. However, because I knew how Bill

Decker felt about anyone in his Department talking about this

particular event, I told him I would have to get Decker's

permission. NBC had been calling me since October 1964 asking to

talk to me but I would not commit myself.

When they arrived during the week of November 22, I went to

Decker to ask permission to do the story. Decker promptly sat me

down in the private office, closed the door and sat there looking

at me for several minutes. It was difficult to tell if Decker was

looking at you--with that glass eye of his--but at the same time

you had the uneasy feeling that he was looking straight through

you. Decker began to talk with that even, never-rising voice which

commanded attention and gave you the feeling that it was dangerous

to interrupt or even question him.

Decker told me to tell these people (Jim Kerr and NBC) that I

was a Deputy Sheriff--not an actor--and for me to keep my mouth

shut. He then went on to say, "Tell them you didn't see or hear

anything." He then went back to the papers on his desk and I knew

he was through--and so was I. I relayed the message to Jim Kerr,

who was very disappointed--and even mad, but he, like me, knew that

he must not challenge Decker's law.

From that day forward Bill Decker began to watch my every move.

People in the office who, before this, very seldom spoke to me,

began to hang around watching my every move and listening to

everything I said. Among these were Rosemary Allen, E. R. (Buddy)

Walthers, Allen Sweatt and Bob Morgan--Decker's four top stoolies.

Combine the foregoing with the run-in I had with Dave Belin,

junior counsel for the Warren Commission, who questioned me in

April of 1964, and who changed my testimony fourteen times when he

sent it to Washington, and you will have some idea of the pressures

brought to bear.

David Belin told me who he was as I entered the interrogation

room (April 1964). He had me sit at the head of a long table. To

my left was a female with a pencil and pen. Belin sat to my right.

Between the girl and Belin was a tape recorder, which was turned

off. Belin instructed the girl not to take notes until he (Belin)

said to do so. He then told me that the investigation was being

conducted to determine the truth as the evidence indicates. Well,

I could take that several ways but I said nothing. Then Belin

said, "For instance, I will ask you where you were at a certain

time. This will establish your physical location." It was at this

point that I began to feel that I was being led into something but

still I said nothing. Then Belin said, "I will ask you about what

you *thought* you heard or saw in regard." Well, this was too

much. I interrupted him and said, "Counselor, just ask me the

questions and if I can answer them, I will." This seemed to

irritate Belin and he told the girl to start taking notes with the

next question.

At this point Belin turned the recorder on. The first questions

were typical. Where were you born? Where did you go to school?

When Belin would get to certain questions he would turn off the

recorder and stop the girl from writing. The he would ask me, for

example, "Did you see anything unusual when you were behind the

picket fence?" I said, "Yes" and he said, "Fine, just a minute."

He would then tell the girl to start writing with the next question

and would again start the recorder. What was the next question?

"Mr. Craig, did you go into the Texas School Book Depository?" It

was clear to me that he wanted only to record part of the

interrogation, as this happened many times.

I finally managed to get in at least most of what I had seen and

heard by ignoring his advanced questions and giving a step-by-step

picture, which further seemed to irritate him.

At the end of our session Belin dismissed me but when I started

to leave the room, he called me back. At this time I identified

the clothing wore by the suspect (the 26 volumes refer to a *box*

of clothing--not *boxes*. There were two boxes.)

After I identified the clothing Belin went over the complete

testimony again. He then asked, "Do you want to follow or waive

your signature or sign now?" Since there was nothing but a tape

recording and a stenographer's note book, there was obviously

nothing to sign. All other testimony which I have read (a

considerable amount) included an explanation that the person could

waive his signature then or his statement would be typed and he

would be notified when it was ready for signature. Belin did not

say this to me.

He said an odd thing when I left. It is the only time that he

said it, and I have never read anything similar in any testimony.

"Be SURE, when you get back to the office, to thank Sheriff Decker

for *his* cooperation." I know of no one else he questioned who he

asked to *thank* a supervisor, chief, etc.

I first saw my testimony in January of 1968 when I looked at the

26 volumes which belonged to Penn Jones. My alleged statement was

included. The following are some of the changes in my testimony:

* Arnold Rowland told me that he saw two men on the

sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository 15

minutes before the President arrived: one was a Negro,

who was pacing back and forth by the *southwest* window.

The other was a white man in the *southeast* corner,

with a rifle equipped with a scope, and that a few

minutes later he looked back and only the white man was

there. In the Warren Commission: *Both* were *white*,

both were *pacing* in front of the *southwest* corner

and when Rowland looked back, *both* were gone;

* I said the Rambler station wagon was *light green*.

The Warren Commission: Changed to a *white* station


* I said the driver of the Station Wagon had on a *tan*

jacket. The Warren Commission: A *white* jacket;

* I said the license plates on the Rambler were *not*

the same color as Texas plates. The Warren Commission:

Omitted the *not*--omitted but one word, an important

one, so that it appeared that the license plates *were*

the same color as Texas plates;

* I said that I *got* a *good look* at the driver of the

Rambler. The Warren Commission: I did *not* get a good

look at the Rambler. (In Captain Fritz's office) I had

said that Fritz had said to Oswald, "This man saw you

leave" (indicating me). Oswald said, "I told you people

I did." Fritz then said, "Now take it easy, son, we're

just trying to find out what happened", and then (to

Oswald), "What about the car?" to which Oswald replied,

"That station wagon belongs to Mrs. Paine. Don't try to

drag her into this." Fritz said *car*--station wagon

was not mentioned by anyone but Oswald. (I had told

Fritz over the telephone that I saw a man get into a

station wagon, before I went to the Dallas Police

Department and I had also described the man. This is

when Fritz asked me to come there). Oswald then said,

"Everybody will know who I am now;" the Warren

Commission: Stated that the last statement by Oswald

was made in a dramatic tone. This was not so. The

Warren Commission also printed, "NOW everybody will know

who I am", transposing the *now*. Oswald's tone and

attitude was one of disappointment. If someone were

attempting to conceal his identity as Deputy and he was

found out, exposed--his cover blown, his reaction

would be dismay and disappointment. This was Oswald's

tone and attitude--disappointment at being exposed!

Shortly after the Kerr and Belin incidents, the Sheriff took me

out of the field and assigned me to the Bond Desk. This meant that

I was sitting directly in line with Decker's office door, where he

could watch me. It made me feel a little like a goldfish in a


While I was on the Bond Desk I noticed Eva Grant (Jack Ruby's

sister) was making daily visits to Decker's office. During this

time Eva and I came to be on good terms. It was convenient for her

to speak to me when she came in because of the position of my

desk--close to the door leading into the Sheriff's Department. As

time went on Eva Grant would stop me in the hall every time I went

for a cup of coffee or took a break. Decker became very concerned

over this and it was not long before I realized that ever time Eva

and I talked we were joined by someone. In addition to this, Buddy

Walthers would be standing close by and listening. (This is

another example of his talents as a peace officer--that he would

make himself so conspicuous.) First he would stand and listen, and

then head into Decker's office.

After a few days of this and armed with information from this

so-called detective--who couldn't track an elephant through the

snow with a nose bleed--Decker called me into his office and

pointed to a chair without saying a word. Well, knowing he wasn't

giving me the chair or asking me to look it over, I sat down.

After a long silence he finally said, "What about it?" This was

Decker's way of telling you he knew it (whatever it was) and he

wanted you to "confess". I felt sure Eva Grant was going to be the

subject of conversation but I was determined to make him start the

interrogation--after all he wanted the answers and, apparently,

Buddy had not heard as much as he thought he had.

Finally he gave in and said, "You've been talking to Eva Grant."

I said, "Yes sir." Decker then said, "What about?" I replied,

"She is concerned about Jack's depressed state of mind and worried

about the fact that he looks ill." Decker said, "That's none of

your business." I replied with the only thing that Decker would

accept--I said, "No sir." Apparently sure that he had convinced me

once again that there was no law except Decker's law, he pointed to

the door and I left. He was a man of few words!

The next day Eva and I had another talk. She was getting more

and more concerned about Jack's health. She had been to see Decker

several times trying to secure medical help for her brother. By

this time the rumor was all through the Sheriff's office that Jack

was, indeed, ill. Most of this information came from the deputies

assigned to guard him. The deputies were Walter Neighbors, James

R. Keene, Jess Stevenson, Jr., and others. Finally Decker

permitted a doctor to see Jack, a psychiatrist, who said Jack Ruby

had a cold!

A few weeks passed, during which time I received same telephone

calls concerning the assassination and my testimony. These calls

came from various people from different parts of the country who

were, apparently, just interested. These calls somehow were

reported to Bill Decker. Not having a reason to fire me, he did

the next best thing, he had a monitoring unit connected to the

telephone system so that he could periodically check any telephone


I will not go into the events leading to Jack Ruby's death.

Much has already been written about this but I would like to say

that Jack Ruby made several statements to guards, jail supervisors

and assistant D.A.'s in which he said "they are going to kill me."

These statements became a private joke among these people and they

discussed them freely in the hall of the court house. When the

Sheriff from Wichita Falls, Texas came to observe the prisoner he

was about to take charge of, due to Ruby's change of venue, he

refused to accept the prisoner on the grounds that Ruby was very

ill. Then, and only then, did Decker send Ruby to Parkland

Hospital where he died a few short days later (some cold!).

I was not too concerned about the minor attention I was

receiving from Decker regarding the assassination and its aftermath

until August 7, 1966. At 2:30 a.m, I was approached by Hardy M.

Parkerson, an attorney from New Orleans, La. Mr. Parkerson was

interested in the assassination and the Jack Ruby trial. I was

working late nights on the Bond Desk when he came to the Sheriff's

office. He asked me several questions relating to these tragic

events and I answered him as honestly as I could and he thanked me

and left.

However, on October 1, 1966 Mr. Parkerson wrote to me advising

me that I was receiving more publicity than I might be aware of.

He mentioned in his letter that he had picked up a book on a New

Orleans newsstand. The book was entitled, "The Second Oswald" by

Richard H. Popkin and my report had been mentioned in the book.

This disturbed me as I knew my popularity with Decker was fading


On October 18 I received another letter from Mr. Parkerson. It

seemed that he had come across another book on a New Orleans

newsstand which mentioned my name. This one was "Inquest" by

Edward J. Epstein. Then I began to worry a bit. Of course other

names were mentioned also in these books but I was concerned

because of my employer's attitude and the fact that I was in

definite conflict with the Warren Commission in my testimony.

In February of 1967 the lid blew off. District Attorney Jim

Garrison announced publicly his probe into the John F. Kennedy

Assassination. It wasn't long--in fact, a matter of hours--until

Decker walked up to me and asked, "Have you been talking to Jim

Garrison?" I told him that I had not, which was the truth. Decker

then said, "Somebody sure as hell has." That was the beginning of

the end of my career as a law officer and my future in Dallas


As more and more books critical of the Warren Commission began

to hit the newsstands throughout the country and I received calls

and visitors asking questions my future with the Sheriff's Office

became VERY SHAKY. Finally, on July 4, 1967 Bill Decker called me

into his office and told me to check out. Knowing there was no

grievance board and that Decker was the supreme ruler of his

domain, I left the Sheriff's Office for good.

I was saddened by the loss of eight years in a job that I had

given my ALL to. But I was soon to find out that this was only the

down payment on the price that I was to pay for the truth! I

immediately began looking for work and found that the Commerce Bail

Bond Company was just opening an office and needed someone to help

in the office as Les Hancock, the owner, was just starting out.

Mr. Hancock and I had a long talk and he agreed that I would be

an asset to the business because he knew nothing about it and I was

familiar with bonds and most of the people at the Sheriff's Office

as well as those wishing to make bond. Les and I seemed to get

along very well. I posted most of the bonds and kept track of our

clients. Posting the first few bonds with the county went slowly

--although the money was in escrow, Decker wanted to personally

approve *all* bonds posted by me. I did not mind this delaying

tactic because all it involved was a little extra time for me. The

bonding business was going very well--within two months we were

making money.

I kept up as much as possible on Jim Garrison's probe and

decided to write him and tell him what I knew--if it would help

him. Jim Garrison answered my letter and asked me to call him, at

which time he made arrangements for my trip to New Orleans.

Les Hancock tried to persuade me not to go, saying I shouldn't

get involved (a little late). I arrived in New Orleans in late

October and was picked up at the airport by Bill Boxley, one of

Jim's investigators, and four men who *didn't* work for Jim.

Boxley took me to a motel where I was to meet Jim and the other

four men followed--apparently, they were not invited. Most of my

talks with Jim were at his office while my "tails" (apparently

government agents) searched my room. I must apologize to them for

not bringing what they could "use."

I had several meetings with Jim Garrison. He showed me numerous

pictures taken in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963. Among them

was a picture of a Latin male. I recognized him as being the same

man I had seen driving the Rambler station wagon in which I had

seen Oswald leave the Book Depository area. I was surprised and I

asked Jim who the man was. Jim did not know but he did say this

man was arrested in Dealey Plaza immediately after the

assassination but was released by Dallas Police because he could

not speak English! This was, to me, highly unusual. In my

experience as a police officer I had never known of a person (or

prisoner) being released because of a language barrier.

Interpreters were, of course, always available.

We also discussed the 45 caliber slug found on the south side of

Elm Street, in the grass, by E. R. (Buddy) Walthers. Buddy had

indeed found such a slug. He and I discussed it the evening of

November 22, 1963. Buddy also gave a statement to the Dallas Press

confirming this find (found among bits of brain matter). However,

he later denied finding it--after Decker had a long talk with him

and subsequent to newsmen questioning the Sheriff about the


Jim Garrison also had a picture of an unidentified man picking

up this 45 slug and Buddy is also in that photograph. I asked

Buddy about this many times--after his denial--but he never made

any comment.

Jim also asked me about the arrests made in Dealey Plaza that

day. I told him I knew of twelve arrests, one in particular made

by R. E. Vaughn of the Dallas Police Department. The man Vaughn

arrested was coming from the Dal-Tex Building across from the Texas

School Book Depository. The only thing which Vaughn knew about him

was that he was an independent oil operator from Houston, Texas.

The prisoner was taken from Vaughn by Dallas Police detectives and

that was the last that he saw or heard of the suspect.

Incidentally, there are no records of any arrests, either by the

Dallas Police Department or the Sheriff's Office, made in Dealey

Plaza on November 22, 1963. Very strange! *Any* and *all* arrests

made during my eight years as an officer were recorded. It may not

have been entered as a record with the Identification Bureau but a

report was always typed and a permanent record kept--if only in our

case files. A report on any questioning shows a reason for your

action and protects you against false arrest. I am saying that

there is *absolutely* no record in the case files or any place


Upon returning to Dallas from my first contact with Jim

Garrison, I was picked up by another "tail". I was followed

constantly after that. My wife could not even go to the grocery

store without being followed. Sometimes they would go so far as to

pull up next to her and make sure she saw them talking on their

two-way radios. They would also park across from my house and sit

for hours making sure I knew they were there.

On the morning of November 1, 1967 I received a call from a

friend of mine. He owned a night club at Carroll and Columbia

Streets in Dallas. Bill said that he wanted to see me and would I

meet him in front of the club. Bill had called me many times when

I was a deputy as he was frequently in financial trouble and I

would have the citation issued for him held up until he was in a

position to accept them. Some people in Dallas did receive Special

Treatment in the matter of citations. Bill was not one of these

but I did this for him because I knew that by holding it up a day

or so I could save his credit rating--and the creditor would be

paid without having a Judgment entered. We were friends and it was

a natural--and practical thing to do.

When Bill called me on November 1 he said he wanted to talk to

me about money he owed the Bonding Company where I worked--for

getting one of his employees out of jail on traffic tickets. He

had asked that I meet him at 9:00 a.m. At about 8:30 a.m. "me and

my shadows" started for the club, arriving at approximately 9:00


When I parked in front of Bill's club "my shadows" began one of

the sweetest set-ups I had ever seen. One car, a tan Pontiac,

parked one block in front of my car, racing me, and the other, a

white Chevrolet with a small antenna protruding from the roof, kept

circling the block again and again, never stopping. There were two

men in the Chevrolet. I couldn't get a good look at the driver but

the other man was in his early thirties. He had dark hair, was

nice looking and wore a black-and-white checked sport coat.

Bill had never been late before for an appointment with me but

he was this time. When it was nearing 10:15 I began to worry that

those poor bastards would get dizzy from driving around and around

--and might hit someone.

Finally, at 10:15 a.m. Bill arrived and we went to the Waffle

House across the street for coffee. There, as big as life, sitting

on a stool was the man in the sport jacket--from the white

Chevrolet. Well . . . we sat down and had coffee. We talked

about how each of us was doing--just shot the bull--and Bill never

did bring up the subject which he had said he wanted to discuss

with me!

When we finished we started to leave and the man in the sport coat

jumped up and beat us out of the door. We paid our checks and

walked out the door and my shadow was nowhere in sight--believe

me, I looked. We crossed the parking lot and stopped at the

traffic light, as it was red against us. For some reason I stepped

down off the curb before the light changed. As I did, Bill fell

flat on the sidewalk. I was about to find out why. At that very

instant a shot rang out behind me and the hair just above my left

ear parted. I felt a pressure and sharp pain on the left side of

my head. I bolted for my car leaving Bill lying on the ground. I

heard him say, "You son of a bitch" and I jumped into my car and

drove home as fast as possible. When I arrived home I told my wife

what this good friend had done for me. I pondered the idea of

moving my family to some safe place.

A curious note: my friend (?) Bill was deeply in debt and about

to lose his business at the time of the shooting. However, about a

month later he was completely out of debt, his business was doing

great and he had invested in two other businesses which were doing

very well. (Payment was, apparently, not withheld just because the

trigger man missed.) I decided to get in touch with Jim Garrison.

I tried all day and finally reached him around ten that evening.

After I told him what had happened he said someone would be at my

home within the hour.

At approximately 11 p.m. someone knocked on the door and I

opened it with my left hand, holding my 45 automatic in my right

hand. Standing there was a small but well-built man in his late

forties or early fifties. He said, "My name is Penn Jones. Jim

Garrison called me." My hand tightened on the 45 when my wife,

Molly, took hold of me and said, "I've seen him on T.V. *He is*

Penn Jones." With that I relaxed and he remained Penn Jones!

Penn Jones listened to my story and then began making telephone

calls to newsmen and wire services that he had contact with,

explaining to me that the best protection for me was open coverage

on the incident. After a long talk with Penn Jones I found that I

had a great deal of respect and admiration for this man. Although

small in stature, I felt he would fight the devil himself to find

the truth about the assassination.

The next day, November 2, 1967, when I went to work at Commerce

Bail Bonds I was approached by two reporters and a photographer

from Channel 8 in Dallas. They had picked the story up on the news

wire and wanted a personal interview. After the interview my boss,

Les Hancock, called me into his office and told me he didn't think

that I should have done the interview (giving no specific reason).

The next few days Les' attitude was very cold and he would barely

speak to me. Then, on the 7th of November he called me into his

office once again. This time he told me the business wasn't doing

well and he would have to let me go because he was closing the

office. Of course, I knew better than this--after all I had access

to all the records and I knew the business was making money. A few

days later I found out Les merely moved to another location and

his business continued as usual.

However, this knowledge did not help me for I was back pounding

the pavement looking for work. In the meantime I had been in

contact with Jim Garrison. He informed me that there was an

opening at Volkswagon International in New Orleans and that I might

try there. By this time my health had begun to be affected. I had

undergone a serious stomach operation in August of 1963 and I

suffer from chronic bronchitis and emphysema (not to mention Dallas

County Battle Fatigue).

My family and I made the trip to New Orleans, where I was

interviewed by Willard Robertson, the owner of the company. Mr.

Robertson told me he was looking for a Personnel Manager and

because of my background of dealing with the public he hired me.

After a long trip back to Dallas where we gathered up our meager

belongings we moved to New Orleans and I felt good--I was working


We had been there but a few days when all of our neighbors and

half the people where I was working knew who I was. This was due

to the newspaper and television coverage of Jim Garrison's probe

into the assassination. Again came the never-ending questions,

which I did not mind because outside of Dallas people were

sincerely interested and I certainly did not mind doing what I

could to clear up any doubts they had. The people at the office

treated me very well.

Unfortunately, after about a month I realized that I was not

doing anything but going in to the office and coming home--nothing

in between. Although I appreciated Jim Garrison recommending me

for the job, I knew by this time that he had done this because he

was concerned about my safety and wanted me out of Dallas. Because

this company did not really need a Personnel Manager and I couldn't

take the money for a job I was not doing, I submitted my

resignation to Mr. Robertson and my family and I returned to Dallas.

We arrived back in Dallas on a cold and snowy seventh of

January, 1968, and moved in with Molly's parents as we had very

little money and nowhere to stay. The next few days I spent

looking for work. I tried every ad and every lead I could find.

The people who interviewed me always seemed interested but like all

companies, they wanted to check out my references. When I failed

to receive any results from my efforts, I called some of the places

where I had placed applications to see what was wrong. I always

received the same answer, "the position had been filled." Finally,

I decided something was WRONG and I suspected one employment

reference, Bill Decker. I had a friend write Decker asking for an

employment reference--he never received an answer!

My next move was to have someone call Decker and ask for a

reference and this took some doing. Writing him was one thing but

talking to him on the telephone was another. He would bait you on

the telephone and, before you knew it, he knew who you were and

whether you were legitimate or not.

Many people in Dallas liked Decker for the favors he could do

for them but those who did not like him were afraid of the

tremendous power he possessed in Dallas County. They were afraid

to oppose him in any issue for fear that this man could, indeed,

affect their professional careers. A good example is the charge,

"Hold for Decker." This meant that when Decker wanted to talk to

you or some friend of his disagreed with an arrest (without

warrant), you were detained in the county jail until Decker wished

to talk or release you. NO attorney in Dallas County would dare

apply for a writ of habeas corpus to secure your release.

Well, to get back to my "minor" problem, I finally found

someone to call Decker for a reference and when he did Decker

informed him that, "Mr. Craig had worked for me and I would not

re-hire him and that is all I've got to say about Mr. Craig." So .

. . I had worked for the Sheriff for eight years and yet, without a

reference, it was as though those years had never existed. How do

you explain this kind of situation to a prospective employer?

After many more exhaustive interviews, I found a company, on

February 1, 1968, which had just opened a branch office in Dallas

and was in BAD need of security guards to work in department stores

where they had new contracts. When I applied for the job I told

them of my background in law enforcement, leaving out the details

of my separation with the Sheriff's Office. I only showed them the

watch I was wearing, which is inscribed: Roger D. Craig, First

Place, Sheriff's Department 1960. (The award was for Officer of

the Year). They were impressed and with a sigh of relief I was

hired without the customary background check.

My first assignment was a department store in East Dallas, where

I held the very important position of keeping the shopping baskets

out of the aisles. (Don't knock it--I was working 12 hours a day

and making a whopping $1.60 per hour).

By this time my creditors were knocking on my door day and

night. All of the furniture we had, which was not much, we lost

and then "along came Jones."

I had contacted Penn when I arrived back in Dallas and after I

lost the car he let me use his 1955 Ford, which he wasn't driving,

and I was back in business!

Because of the crowded quarters at Molly's parents, we began to

search for an apartment. We found many and were turned down every

time. Some people said they did not want to rent to families with

children. Others would accept us and then when we were ready to

move in, they would say it was already rented and they had

"forgotten." Finally, in mid-February we found a couple on Tremont

Street, who were not afraid to rent to us. Oh, they knew who I was

but they said it did not matter--they had kept up on the


Our only outlet for our tensions were the Sunday trips we made

to the Penn Jones home in Midlothian, Texas. During these visits I

would try to bring Penn up to date on the latest from the Dallas

Police Department and Sheriff's Office. I was able to give him

some help from time to time because I could keep in touch with

these offices through officers there who were still friendly toward

me. It was fun and relaxing to get together with Penn and his wife

L.A., who is a delightful person with a great sense of humor. The

two of them made you feel as though the whole world was right


On one of these visits Penn told me he was going to appear on

the Joe Pyne show in Los Angeles and asked if I would go with him.

Needless to say, I owed Penn Jones much over the previous months

and if I would be an asset, I was certainly prepared to go, I told

him. I got a leave of absence from my employer, Penn made the

arrangements and we were off to Los Angeles.

The Los Angeles trip was a success as far as I was concerned,

especially when we spoke to the young people at U.C.L.A. They were

very concerned about the assassination and were kind to Penn and

me. The only disappointment came in the form of Otto Preminger,

who was sitting in for Joe Pyne that night. I think his statement

to the audience speaks for itself. He said that he believed

whole-heartedly in the Warren Report and when I asked him if he had

read the Warren Report, he said "no"! After a week of appearances

on television and radio my lungs were beginning to give me trouble

and I returned to Dallas with Mrs. Jones, while Penn went on to San


After a few weeks back on my important job of keeping the

shopping carts in line I found that at a dollar and sixty cents an

hour I had too much month left at the end of the money. We were

behind on our rent and, oh well, back to the want ads.

We found a couple who were looking for someone to live in and

care for their elderly mother, rent free. After all this time

there was something free? Getting settled did not take very long-

-with just a few clothes. This worked out fairly well. I worked

twelve hours a day and Molly did all of the washing, ironing,

cooking and cleaning--in addition to caring for Terry, Deanna and

Roger Jr. (who had been staying previously with his grandmother).

Did I say free?

In the meantime Penn had returned from San Francisco and during

a visit to our house he told me he could get me a job in Midlothian

working at an oil refinery and that the pay was $500.00 per month.

I hated to give up the prestige of my present position but money

was money. I gave my employer notice and on April 15, 1968 I

started work at the refinery. This was not crude oil but used

motor oil--we re-re-processed it. The work was new to me and I had

never re-refined used motor oil before. I found that I was a

little soft. I had to dump three thousand pounds (50 fifty-pound

bags) of clay into hot oil every morning and pump it back into the

still which cooked it. This whipped me into shape quite

rapidly. I was not concerned with the physical work involved for I

knew that I had a chance to support my family and that was what


The work went smoothly until the second Thursday of May, 1968

when, while trying to start an engine at the plant, I slipped and

broke my arm--"good ole lady luck." I had my arm set and missed

one day of work. On Monday morning I returned to work, knowing I

could not live on workmen's compensation, which was about $40.00

per week. I painfully continued to work with the arm in a cast for

the next six weeks.

During this six week period my boss had offered to let me move

into a house he owned in Midlothian so that I would be closer to

work. I took him up on the offer because I was driving sixty miles

each day to work and back and Molly was worried about me driving

and working with the broken arm and--again I was being followed.

During this time a Dallas Sheriff's car stopped me and asked

where I was going. I had known this deputy for several years and

there was no reason for his behavior. Molly's health was getting

worse. She had serious stomach disorders and the strain of past

events had not helped--so we moved. Now we were in Midlothian and

I was driving four miles to work and back.

During the time I was still driving back and forth from Dallas

to Midlothian--or the job--I noticed that I was being followed by a

blue and white pick-up, occupied by a white male. One day, after

being followed by this truck for several days, as the truck was

approaching the driver stuck a revolver out the window and was

about to fire, when another car pulled up behind me and he withdrew

the pistol.

My hours were never the same two days in a row but this man

seemed to know the precise hour I would leave work. Penn Jones and

I tried to set a trap for this man but, apparently, he knew it and

got away. I never saw him after that.

It was six weeks since I had broken my arm and this was the day

I was to have the cast taken off. I felt good as it had been quite

a burden. On that morning I reported for work and started

preparing the pumps and tanks for cooking the oil when lady luck

smiled down on me once again. I started to light the furnace and

it blew up, burning my face and a good deal of hair and my arms.

This was around the first of July, 1968. After the doctor treated

me, he advised me that I would have to wear the cast another two

weeks because he was afraid that I would get an infection in the

burned area if the cast were removed. I do not want to leave the

impression that my conflict with the Dallas establishment was the

direct cause of these accidents. However, had the door not been

closed to me in Dallas, I would not have had to turn to work with

which I was not familiar.

In August of 1968 (while living in Midlothian) I received a

visit in the middle of the night from a man in his fifties who said

he was out of gas. I was already in bed and Molly was catching up

on some of my court records when this man came to the door. Molly

told him I was in bed with a sprained ankle and would not be able

to help him. She directed him to the neighbors down the road. He

went straight to his car, which was parked beside our house, got

in, started it right up and drove off! Apparently, he was not out

of gas but wanted us to know we could be found. This was about the

time Penn was printing some pretty hot editorials in his paper with

information I had supplied. I guess someone didn't like it.

I made some friends in Midlothian and was getting along fairly

well. I had a job, a place to live and was able to purchase a used


The City Council was taking applications for a city judge.

After talking it over with Penn Jones and some of my other friends,

I went before the council for an interview, and, I must say, it was

somewhat of a surprise when they appointed me. The future was

beginning to show some promise. I continued the work at the

refinery and pursued my new duties at city hall.

On August 5, 1968, Bill Seward, the only other employee at the

refinery, was discussing a better way to process the oil with Dale

Foshee, the owner. They were going to try something new in an

attempt to obtain a better quality of oil. Dale purchased a new

type of clay which would absorb more waste from the used oil as it

cooked. Neither of these men told me that this new clay contained

a substantial amount of some sort of acid. This meant that when I

dumped it (the clay) into the hot oil tank, as I did every morning,

and did not wear any sort of breathing devise, I inhaled a great

deal of the dust from this new product.

Shortly after I started cooking the oil I noticed I was having

trouble breathing. I did not pay much attention to it and

finished the day's work. That night the acid really got to me and

I found myself passing out. I tried lying my head right in the

window to get enough air--but still could not. Penn Jones came to

the house and he and Molly rushed me to the hospital in Mansfield,

Texas, about ten miles from Midlothian. I stayed under an oxygen

tent for two days. On the fourth day I felt much better and was

released from the hospital.

I had learned, about a week before going to the hospital, that

the Justice of the Peace in Midlothian was resigning and I was

persuaded by friends to seek that position. I had talked with the

county commissioners before I went to the hospital and they made

their final decision on the day I came home from the hospital. I

was sworn in as Justice of the Peace on August 8, 1968. I would be

an appointee until the November election. Now I was working at

the refinery, holding the position of City Judge and also Justice

of the Peace. The city paid me $50.00 a month and the Justice of

the Peace position brought in about $50.00 a month. I was not

getting rich but look at it this way, I was the entire

establishment in Midlothian!

The business for the city was very routine and went rather

smoothly. However, the Justice Court was another matter. I was

having to correspond with the surrounding counties and they were

all cooperative, with one exception (you guessed it), Dallas

County. Some warrants, citations and subpoenas were sent to the

Dallas County Sheriff for service. Needless to say, they were

returned "unable to locate"!

So the door was still closed to me in Dallas--even in matters of

the law which these officials were sworn to uphold. Now, also

Decker knew where I was and it was not long before my creditors,

with whom I had been trying to make arrangements to pay a little to

each month, had obtained judgments against me in the Dallas courts

and I had been served with the papers. Now there was no hope of

clearing my credit without paying everyone in full, which was

impossible (I'll bet his glass was really shining). The next few

weeks I managed to avoid my contact with the Good People of Dallas,

hoping that they would forget about me--a fat chance!

In October 1968, my oldest son (Roger, Jr.) wasn't doing well in

school and he decided to run away from home. I was, of course,

very concerned about him--he was only fourteen years old. I

contacted the "Dallas Morning News" to see if they would print his

picture. I might have just as well invaded Russia. My name was

immediately connected with Jim Garrison and before I could say stop

the press, my name and connection with Jim was all over the

newspaper, UPI, radio and television. I was getting calls from all

over the country.

A couple of days later we received a call from the sheriff in

Texarkana, Arkansas. He had Roger Jr.. We went to Arkansas and

retrieved him as quietly as possible. He had been working for one

day on a ranch.

On October the seventh I reported to work at the refinery at

which time my boss handed me a check marked, FINAL. He told me he

was cutting down on production due to a slowdown in business and he

wouldn't need me anymore. Now where have I heard that before?

Being Justice of the Peace, I wasn't without influence in

Midlothian. I soon secured a job at a gas station changing truck

tires. Not much prestige but a lot of hours and I quickly

commanded the respect of every tire tool in the place.

A few days later, my former employer came to me and said that I

would have to move out of his house because he wanted to use if for

a week retreat to get away from Dallas.

By this time I was beginning to suspect the periodic publicity I

had been receiving through the years, might have had something to

do with my trouble finding jobs and housing. I guess I am a little

slow--especially when this former employer hired someone to take my

place at the refinery. He let him move into the house where I

lived--as I found out sometime later. So now I had to work 12

hours a day and try to find a place to move my family. The

election was coming up. This would not have been important except

for the fact that being Justice of the Peace served as a deterrent

from harassment by certain people, whose names I need not mention.

It was November and I still had been unable to find a house to

rent. Midlothian was a very small town and there were just no

houses to rent. Anyway, the election was over and I had won by

twenty votes. No doubt, twenty people who did not read the paper

or watch television. I continued working at the gas station and

living in my former employer's house. The election had done at

least one thing for me. Dale still wanted me to move but was not

pressing as hard. The days which followed were hard--we had rain

and some sleet and working in this was beginning to affect my

health. Molly was ill and Deanna, who had suffered from chronic

bronchitis since birth, was not doing any better than we were.

December was on us before I knew it and Mr. Roberts, the owner,

decided to retire from the gas station. This meant, of course,

that I was back on the street.

* * * * * *


Our President is lying up there cold beneath his flame

He is calling out for vengeance and to do so in his name.

To keep the peace forever and erase our nation's shame

His dream goes marching on.

This time there were no jobs to be found. However, business in

the Justice Court was somewhat improved due to the opening of a sub

station in Midlothian by the Highway Patrol. I could not pay the

rent or meet the bills but the increase was enough to buy

groceries. I had resigned as City Judge so that there would be no

conflict of interest between the two positions (City and County


It was at this time that I was notified by District Attorney,

Jim Garrison, that he would need me in the upcoming Clay Shaw trial

--another wrench in the machinery. The night after I was notified

of this I received a telephone call and the voice asked if I was

going to go to New Orleans. When I answered, "yes", he just said,

"get a one-way ticket" and then hung up. I brushed this off as

just another crank. I'd had those calls before. However, the next

day I received another call. This time it was a different voice.

This one asked if I were going to New Orleans and when I said,

"yes", all he said was, "Remember you have a family" and hung up.

I must admit this worried me. After that I would get up during the

night and check the family and house--not a very pleasant way to


During this turmoil I at last had a prospect of getting back

into that illusive pastime called "employment"--it was again Penn

Jones to the rescue--and I say this with the greatest respect and

admiration! Penn had been corresponding with a friend of his in

Boulder, Colorado, regarding helping me find employment out of

Texas, which seemed the only thing left. The friend suggested to

Penn that I make a trip to Boulder to check into some leads so the

Jones family made the arrangements and I was off to Boulder. This

was in January 1969.

I arrived in Boulder and was met by members of the Students for

a Democratic Society, whose names I will not mention. (J. Edgar

Hoover should not have his work made so easy.) They took me from

the airport and arranged for my lodging. The next three days I

filled out applications at various places, including the Boulder

Police Department and Sheriff's Office because those were the

positions I was most qualified for and I believed I could be a cop

and still have compassion for my fellow men. If they would not

accept me that way, I could always quit--after all, I was an expert

at being out of work.

After I had exhausted all possibilities, I thanked the people

who had been so kind to me and returned to Midlothian, Texas to

wait. I had been home about one week when I received word from the

Boulder Sheriff's Department that there would be an opening soon

and if I wanted the job, it was mine. Satisfied that the out of

Texas bit was going to pay off, the Penn Jones, bless them,

financed the trip back to Boulder. This time the family went with

me. We drove straight through from Midlothian to Boulder. The

second day in Boulder we found an apartment or two we might be

able to afford until I started getting regular pay checks. I felt

good about having a chance at a new start as I went to see Under

Sheriff Cunningham.

When I arrived at the Sheriff's Department, Cunningham took me

to his office, asked me to sit down and closed the door. It was

then that I began to get that feeling I'd had so many times before

when I was about to get the purple shaft. Sure enough, I had

managed to lose a job before I even started. Mr. Cunningham began

to ask me about my background with the Dallas Sheriff's Department

(which he already knew from my previous visit) and the reason for

my termination. Then he brought out his big gun, "What about Jim

Garrison?" Well, knowing I'd been had, I told him I was going to

have to testify in the Shaw trial (which I'm sure he already knew).

I'd heard about every excuse there was for not hiring me but he

should have handed me this one in a gift-wrapped "surprise"

package. "Mr. Craig," he said, (I had been Roger until then)

"we've had a little situation here" and he went on--it seemed that

one of their jailers had seduced a sixteen-year old girl while she

was in their custody--WOW--and with *that* and my connection with

the Garrison probe, the heat would be more than they wanted to

handle. He was sorry. So was I--all the way back to Texas.

When we arrived back in Midlothian we were all exhausted and

very *disappointed*. Molly had the flu, Deanna a bad cold and the

strain of the past few weeks had taken its toll on me. I was

having trouble with my stomach and lungs and was down to 138

pounds. It was February 1, 1969. We had just enough money left

from the trip to perhaps rent a house and buy a few groceries.

Dale Foshee was pressing me again to move and I had nowhere to go

and no prospects of a job. Like a wounded animal, I could only

think of returning to familiar surroundings--the place that I had

spent most of my adult life.

We drove to Dallas and by some streak of luck sneaked by a

property owner and managed to rent a house. Before this poor,

misguided soul could change his mind, we gathered up our belongings

in Midlothian and moved back to Dallas, where I again applied my

trade of LOOKING for work.

I spent the following days filling out many applications and

some of the interviews were even promising. I was very careful not

to mention any part of my involvement in the assassination.

However, on February 13, 1969 I was summoned to New Orleans to

testify in the Clay Shaw trial. On the 14th when I finally took

the stand the defense tried very hard to discredit me by saying

that I worked in New Orleans and was, in fact, *still* working in

that city under an assumed name. Failing to discredit me, they

accomplished the next best thing, the distorted version appeared in

newspapers and wire services throughout the country.

When I returned to Dallas on February 16, 1969 I was to realize

the full impact of this distorted news story for when I contacted

the job possibilities I had before I testified I found all doors

closed. On March 4--after several days of no openings, or being

told that I was not qualified, or that they would call me, which

they never did--I found a job with Industrial Towel and Uniform

Company of Dallas. This was a rental company and they needed men

so that all I had to do was pass a polygraph test to prove I was

not a thief, which I passed!

NOW I was a Route Salesman. Ponder that awhile--a Judge reduced

to picking up dirty laundry. Oh, well, work is work! Still weak

and underweight from being sick during January and February, I was

determined to make it on my new job.

I left home at 5:45 a.m. and arrived at the plant a little after

6:00 a.m., put my route slips in order, loaded my truck and started

my deliveries. I got back to the plant about 4:30 p.m., unloaded

the dirty linens, turned in my money and charge slips and got back

home around 6:30 p.m. This was the season for cold, rainy

weather--wouldn't you know? I had been to a doctor who gave me

some medication for the chest infection I had developed and the

medicine kept me going until March 14--when I, literally, ran out

of gas.

On March 18, Molly called Penn and told him that I was not

any better. Penn began to make arrangements for me to be admitted

to the Veterans Hospital, where he was to meet me. By this time I

was out of it and Molly called an ambulance. I had completely

passed out by the time it had arrived. I knew that I was going to

the V.A. Hospital but when I woke up a short time later I knew I

was not at the V.A. Hospital. Those dirty bastards had taken me to

Parkland Hospital, which has a reputation for saving people

comparable to my employment record for the past two years. I

gathered what strength I had, got off the stretcher and staggered

down the hall.

Molly had reached Penn, who was waiting at the V.A. Hospital, and

he was madder than hell as he hated Parkland Hospital even more

than I did. So, I finally wound up at the V.A. Hospital via Penn's

car, where I spent the next ten days. I was released from the

hospital on March 28, 1969 with instructions not to work out in the

weather until my lungs had improved. This, of course, eliminated

my job as a route salesman.

I knew an inside job was going to be hard to find from my

experience during the past two years. First of all, I knew that

when my rererences were checked Decker would not give me a

favorable recommendation--if he even gave one at all. Second, my

unstable employment record during the past two years had resulted

in a disastrous credit rating. Eight years of experience in

various responsible duties at the Sheriff's Office were gone. They

had, indeed, done their work well!

After many weeks of search I still had no job and was again

behind on the rent. At this point we took two cameras, one 8

millimeter movie and one Minor still, our projector and screen and

sold them for enough to rent a cheaper house. We moved into a

three room house on Gurley Street which wasn't much but it kept out

the rain!

One day I got a wild idea. I would go down to the Federal

Building and apply for a government job--those people will hire

anybody--well, almost anybody. I passed the civil service test and

was told they had a job coming up in the office and I was qualified

for it. I was to go back in two days to begin work. Things were

certainly looking up. I went over to my father-in-law's and drank

all of his beer to celebrate.

The two days passed and I headed for my government job, which

was to be handling correspondence from other government agencies--

they do a lot of writing to each other. Well, when I arrived I was

ushered into one of those cubby hole offices AGAIN, where I was

told that they had received a memo telling them the budget was

being cut and my job was being eliminated (I hadn't even started).

Oh, well, at least I was losing "more important" jobs now.

On June 1 I answered an ad for an Assistant Manager's job at a

liquor store, where the only qualification was that I pass another

polygraph test, which I did, proving that I had not yet turned to

stealing. The next day I reported for work to find that I was a

delivery boy again. My job was restocking private clubs throughout

Dallas who bought merchandise from the store. I soon made friends

with all the club owners and every time I would make a delivery,

they would insist on buying me a drink. I was making $1.87 an

hour. I wasn't the highest paid delivery boy in town but after a

few stops I was probably the happiest!

In the meantime being out of work from March until June 1, I was

again behind on the rent as well as the car payment on my used 1965

Buick. The landlord had asked us to move. I tried to explain my

situation and the fact that I was *now* working and would try to

catch up on the rent but he didn't care--I had to go. It was two

weeks before I received a pay check. I don't know how we made it

but we did. Molly then found a house for us to rent and I paid the

first month's rent. I didn't worry about the car payment any

longer for two days after I started to work the bank repossessed

the car. We then again went back to driving one of Penn's cars.

During the slow periods of the weeks which followed I was always

searching the paper and talking to people--trying to find a better

paying job with a little security. I was working eleven hours a

day, six days a week so it took me some time to locate one and I

also had to be careful not to let people know too much about me

because the general attitude in Dallas was not to get involved in

the assassination. (A little late for Dallas).

On September 18, 1969 I applied at Peakload, Inc., a temporary

employment service, who was looking for a dispatcher. The job

consisted of taking orders from companies which needed temporary

help for a few days, selecting the men from the hall who were best

suited to the customer's needs, then seeing that they were

delivered by our driver and picked up promptly after work. Al

Nagel, the office manager, was from Minnesota and knew little of

the events in Dallas and nothing of the people involved in the

assassination so I slipped by and was hired. Now I was doing

something which I enjoyed and the pay was $500.00 a month with

time and one-half for over 48 hours. The next few weeks went by

swiftly. I was working six days a week and making enough money to

pay the rent, buy groceries and clothes for the kids.

On November 10, 1969 I was taken to the V.A. Hospital again.

This time with neuritis, which the doctors said was caused by a

vitamin deficiency over a long period of time, and bronchial

pneumonia. This time I was not too concerned because Al Nagel

liked my work and I was sure that I had a future with Peakload

regardless of this temporary set back.

Well, after twenty-four days of what seemed like endless

injections of vitamins, penicillin and streptomycin (one hundred

and twenty-eight in all) I was sent home on December 4, 1969. The

next day I called Al Nagel to tell him that I would return to work

in a couple of days--when I got my strength back. Al informed me

that I no longer had the job--that I had been replaced.

My final check from Peakload paid the rent for a month and

bought a few groceries but Christmas was coming and I had managed

somehow not to let the kids down--up until now. While I was in the

hospital Penn Jones brought a letter he had received from Madeline

Goddard. She had, apparently, read much on the assassination and

sent her best wishes and support to us. Also in the letter was the

answer to this Christmas. Madeline had enclosed a check for


She did not realize it, I'm sure, but that kept us from throwing

my hands up in the air and giving up. The next few weeks were a

repetition of earlier days--no jobs, no money, no prospects (there

must be a song in there somewhere). Our only means of eating those

days was Madeline Goddard's generosity; God bless Madeline and her

generous heart.

Penn Jones had a few acres of land in Boyce, Texas, a short

distance from Midlothian and he had persuaded us to move into the

smaller of two houses on this land. We decided to go so that I

could recuperate and regroup my thoughts. By this time, January

24, 1970, I was very depressed and ready to throw in the towel.

Penn and his son, Penn III, moved our belongings into the small

three-room house and I must say that the fresh air and freedom from

Dallas and its citizens was a welcome change. After a few days I

felt better and began exploring our new surroundings. Penn had

seventy-eight head of cattle on the place and I was feeding twenty

bales of hay to them every morning. As my strength came back I

also tackled various small, clean up jobs around the farm. It was

the least I could do--the rent was free and Penn paid the light and

water bills. We bought what butane we had to buy for heat and

cooking. How about this--in 1948 I ran away from home at age 12

and spent the next four years working on farms and ranches in the

west and northwest--now twenty-two years later I was back on the

farm! There were days, however, when the rain and sleet would keep

me inside, only venturing out when I had to (mostly to feed the


The highlight of each day was when the mail man came as we were

now corresponding with Madeline Goddard regularly and always looked

forward to her letters. I do not know what we would have done if

it hadn't been for this wonderful person. If I live to be a

hundred, I couldn't repay her!

Roger, Jr., was sixteen now and living with his grandparents in

Dallas. Terry and Deanna were going to school in Waxahachie, seven

miles away. They had to walk about three quarters of a mile to the

school bus stop so in bad weather we would drive them to school.

This was no easy job in the 1955 Ford of Penn's, which had seen

better days. I certainly do not mean to sound ungrateful--Penn

Jones and his wife were wonderful to us--we will always hold them


It was April when the larger house on the land in Boyce became

vacant and Penn said that we could move into it. We needed the

room and I would be closer to the stock and the feed for them was

also in the barn near that house. Living in the bigger house was

much easier and it was about this time that Penn decided to try to

raise Holstein calves. There were no jobs in this small county and

maybe we could make some money on this venture.

Molly, Terry, Deanna and I drove Penn's Travelall truck to

Cleburne, where we picked up the calf Penn had bought on a pilot

project. At three days old, the calf was a big baby at 80 pounds

or more. Every morning at 7:00 a.m. Molly fixed the calf's bottle

and we took turns feeding him until he decided that Molly was his

mother. Cute--but something she wasn't ready for!

We continued taking care of the cattle for several weeks and

during this time two calves were born. We named one, a little bull

calf, "Jones" and the other a heifer calf, Deanna named "Susie."

They became her only playmates. However, I wasn't making one red

cent and the only help we received was from Madeline who, God

knows, was carrying the burden of feeding my family.

On May 15 a decision had to be made. It was apparent that the

calf project wasn't going to materialize and Penn was talking of

selling some of the land and cattle. It looked as though Penn was

having financial problems and I did not want to add to them. So,

Molly and I talked and decided the best thing for us was to drive

to Dallas and make arrangements to stay with someone and for me to

try *one more time* (there's that song title). We talked to my

mother, who said we could move in with her until I found a job and

a place to live.

As we drove back to Boyce we spoke of our apprehension about

moving but when we drove into the yard we knew it was the thing to

do. The front door of the house was standing wide open. I knew

what was gone even before I got out of the car. I was right. The

30-40 Krag rifle (the only one I had managed to hang onto), Terry's

30.30 Winchester, which he had received as a gift, his 410 shotgun,

and the 12 gauge automatic shotgun Penn had loaned me were all

missing. These were our only means of protection in this place so

far in the country with no telephone or close neighbors. Now we

had been stripped of that. Coincidence? Maybe. I was very uneasy

and the sooner we got out of there, I felt, the better.

It took two days and two sleepless nights to arrange the move

but we did it and were back in Dallas and staying with my mother.

By this time my physical health was somewhat improved and my mental

attitude was back to normal. This was due to the words of

encouragement I had received from Madeline and others who had

written to us over the past months to let me know that there were

people in this country who cared. I was ready for any opposition

from the Political Monster which ruled Dallas and even the very

lives of those so-called Business and Civic leaders who did not

have the guts to stand on their own two feet! As I thought over

the past years, I was even amused that *I*, a man of limited

education and no social position in this City of Purity, had struck

fear into the hearts of its *great* leaders by just speaking to

them on the street!

Although I had not worked steadily since my termination from the

Dallas County Sheriff's Department, I did not forget my obligation

as an American. Thus, when asked by certain critics of the Warren

Report to help, I did what I could. Imagine the turmoil it will

cause when and if the Dallas Police read this and find out I have

copied and turned over to a certain editor several names, addresses

and telephone numbers of people connected with the assassination of

John F. Kennedy which were LOCKED in the files of the Dallas Police

Intelligence Division. Not to mention the files which were

photostated and smuggled out of the Dallas County Mail under Bill

Decker's nose (all after I left the Sheriff's Department). Even

though I have not made any money in the past few years, I hope I

was able to help those who have spent so much time investigating

the assassination, who certainly haven't made any money either!

The last week of May, 1970 I got lucky. The ad in the newspaper

read, "Wanted Dispatcher for temporary labor company". The Company

was Peakload. I quickly made a call to the chief dispatcher, with

whom I had worked previously, and found he was working sixteen

hours every day. He was so happy to hear from me, because of his

workload, that he offered to come and get me so that I could go to

work that day. The company had a new office manager, Jim Morris.

I went in immediately to apply--at the urging of the chief

dispatcher, Bill Funderburke--and for an interview with Jim Morris,

the manager. He was from Ft. Worth and knew more about the

assassination and me than I would have preferred (from the

questions he asked me concerning Bill Decker, Jim Garrison and

others who had made the news). However, the office was in trouble

as they had not been able to keep an evening dispatcher for more

than three or four weeks at a time since I worked there in 1969.

With a word of caution as to my activities, Jim put me to work.

This made Bill very happy as the pressure was now off him. I knew

the work, the customers and most of the men I would be dealing with

so Peakload did not have to worry about breaking in a new man. The

rest of May and early June passed uneventfully but around the

middle of June Molly went into Baylor Hospital, through the clinic

as we could not afford a private doctor or the high rate of regular

hospital services (I had only worked a short time and we still had

a balance owing on Molly's surgery in August 1969). On June 26

Molly underwent major surgery. She had been under a tremendous

strain the past years and was physically and mentally exhausted.

During this period I had managed to gather enough money to buy a

1962 Ford from a friend. It was not the best car in the world but

it was only a hundred and fifty dollars and it did run. I paid

$50.00 down and was to pay him the rest in a month or so. I also

rented a small apartment and it seemed good to once again be by

ourselves in our own home. But our new found *Wealth* was short


Shortly after this, a self-professed private detective in

Dallas, by the name of Al Chapman, had written a story about new

evidence in the assassination which he had sold to the "National

Enquirer." In this article he quoted me as saying that I had given

certain information to him and had personally identified a picture

of a man and car saying it was Lee Harvey Oswald and his


The entire story, with reference to me, was completely false. I

had never been interviewed by this man and had at no time seen the

picture to which he referred. Al Chapman, prior to the

assassination, was a custodian for a church in Oak Cliff. There is

a good deal of mystery about him for he will not reveal his

business or residential address. Nor is the name of the church

available. Although he is a part-time private investigator, he has

no license.

The story was all over the office and Jim was concerned as he

had been keeping up on anything written involving these events.

Before long the F.B.I. and the Dallas Police were making regular

visits to the office on the pretext of looking for "Jim Jones" or

"Tom Smith" or any excuse they could use to let me know they could

also read! The heat was on. Jim was constantly there--everytime I

looked up--which was unusual. This leech, this skid row bum, and I

*am* referring to Al Chapman, in his lust for money, not caring

whom he hurt, had not only sold his story but my future with

Peakload as well.

On July 17, 1970, I reported for work to find another man doing

my job. I was told by this "replacement" that Jim wanted to see

me. As I sat in Jim's office I knew what was coming. Jim said,

"Roger, you've done a good job but it is time for a change." I

asked him for an explanation but all he would say was that it was

time for a change and he was sorry!

Bill Decker died in August. The County Commissioners appointed

his executive assistant, Clarence Jones, to fill the job until

November, when he had to run for election (with the backing of the

Democratic Party). For the first time since Decker's reign, the

Republicans nominated someone to oppose a Democrat for the office.

The man was Jack Revel, former Chief of the Dallas Police

Intelligence Division. This meant that the voters had the choice

between two evils. Well, Clarence Jones was elected--his campaign

signs and posters read, "Elect Clarence Jones - In the Tradition of

Bill Decker"! It would be nice if Jack Revel would be upset enough

over his loss of the election to make public some information--but

this is very wishful thinking indeed.

Meanwhile, I am still out of a job (but still looking). I would

like to think that the people of Dallas will change and rise up

against the dishonest and irresponsible tyrants who govern in their

name--but I do not see it happening in the near future. Dallas is

my home but I will always feel like an outsider because I simply

will not adjust to the idea that for Dallas, for Texas, for America

this must serve as DEMOCRACY.

A Few Odd and Interesting Facts

Allen Sweatt, Decker's Chief criminal investigator, let me know

that he was aware of my friendship with Hiram Ingram and that he

did not like it one bit.

Before I departed the Sheriff's Office for good Allen Sweatt and

I talked a couple of times and he revealed to me that he knew Lee

Harvey Oswald. He also told me that Oswald worked for the F.B.I.

as an informer, that he was paid $200.00 a month and his code

number was S 172.


When Penn Jones wanted the records of Robert Perrin, the ex-

husband of Nancy Perrin Rich, I had to find a new source of

information. (I won't release this name for obvious reasons.) It

seems that Nancy Perrin was connected with Jack Ruby, Clay Shaw and

Lee Oswald at about the time of President Kennedy's death.

Robert Perrin was reported to have committed suicide in New

Orleans, La. The autopsy showed no visible scars, marks or tattoos

and Penn knew that Perrin had been arrested in Dallas and wanted me

to get the records of the arrest along with his description. After

some doing I finally obtained the record. It showed that Perrin

had several tattoos and part of his right index finger was missing.

None of this information showed up on the autopsy report. It would

be interesting to know who WAS buried in Robert Perrin's place and

where Robert Perrin is now, wouldn't it?


The favorite pastime in Dallas

Is a game they call murder with malice.

They don't ask your leave.

But not to deceive. . . .

To tell you would be - well, too callous.


On Wednesday, October 27, 1970 I went to downtown Dallas to Jack

Revel's campaign headquarters to pick up some campaign signs. The

headquarters were not open and I decided to visit a friend who

works at a restaurant across the street. While talking with my

friend the conversation turned, as it so often does, to the

assassination. He and I had discussed this in the past.

During the course of our conversation a man who I had not met

before entered into the conversation. He, of course, did not know

me (not to my knowledge). I told him that I was from out of town

and that I was interested in facts that hadn't been printed and in

persons that had known Jack Ruby and Lee Oswald. This man said, "I

knew Oswald and Ruby. I can tell you anything you want to know

about them."

At this point I became very interested and I told him again that

I'd sure like to know first hand what they were like. He said, "I

knew Ruby well--I had seen Oswald a couple of times in Ruby's

place." I then said, "Well, in Ruby's business--the night club--I

imagine a lot of people were seen there." He sort of chuckled and

said "Huh--Jack Ruby's business was spelled Mafia." He then said,

"I can show you a used car lot where Ruby collected a lot of

gambling money over on Ross Avenue" (it was the 4600 block of Ross

Avenue). So I offered to drive him over there and he said, "No--do

you have your car here?" I did. He said I should follow him,

which I did. I parked my car on the same side of the street as the

car lot, a short distance down and walked back to his car. I

opened the door of his car on the passenger side and he pointed to

the car lot and said, "That's where a lot of the money comes in

from the gambling operation and Jack picked it up here."

He said, "If you really want to know what's going on in Dallas

you have to talk to someone who's been around--and I've been around

in those circles." Then he said, "Just leave your car parked there

and come with me--I'll show you something that's REALLY

interesting." He drove me to 300 1/2 South Ewing in the Oak Cliff

area to an apartment that had been a family dwelling and was

converted into apartment units. I should mention here that Jack

Ruby's address at the time of the assassination was 323 South


The apartment at 300 1/2 South Ewing is upstairs and when we

walked into the apartment there was a distinct feeling of an

unlived-in atmosphere. The furnishings were bare. There was a

couch, chair and coffee table--no lamps, no ash trays, nothing on

the walls. The man had been smoking so it was odd that there were

no ash trays. He said, "How about a cup of coffee?" We went into

the kitchen, he opened the cabinet and said, "Oh well, I guess I'm

out of coffee." He was also out of everything else as there was

nothing in the cabinet.

The arrangement of the apartment was unusual as you had to go

through the bedroom to the kitchen, which was very small. The

closet door was open in the bedroom. However, there were no

clothes in it. At that time I became slightly nervous about the


We went back into the bedroom from the kitchen. While in the

bedroom he said, "I want to show you something." He opened the top

drawer of the dresser and pulled out a shoulder holster--there was

a 32 revolver with a three inch barrel in the shoulder holster. He

pulled the 32 out of the holster and said, "what do you think about

that?" I remarked that you don't see many 32's with a barrel like

that. He put the 32 back in the drawer and went around to the side

of the closet which was not visible when you went into the kitchen.

At that time he produced two rifles--one was a bolt action which

looked like a 30.06, the other was a high power automatic which

appeared to be a 257 caliber.

I remarked that they were nice rifles and I would like to have a

good deer hunting rifle. He then laid those two on the bed and he

said, "You haven't seen anything yet." He then got down on the

floor and he pulled 5 more rifles from under the bed. Each of

these were equipped with scopes. He then pulled a cardboard box

about 13 inches long and 10 inches deep also from under the bed.

The box was closed and on the side was printed "Ammunition - Handle

With Care." He then slid the rifles and ammunition back under the

bed. I said jokingly, "What are you gonna do--start a war?" He

said, "Could be."

At that time he looked at his watch and said "excuse me just a

minute, I have to go down to the landlady's apartment and make a

phone call--I promised some people I would call them" (there was no

telephone in the apartment). He was gone for about ten minutes.

During this time I made a mental inventory of the apartment. After

he returned he asked me if I was ready to go back to my car. There

was a pay phone on the corner from the apartment and I asked him to

pull over so that I could call the people who owned the car (I had

told him that it was borrowed while I was in Dallas), that I wanted

to let them know that the car was okay. From the pay phone I

called my wife and gave her the man's name and address and told her

of the situation. His name--as he gave me is A.E. Allen, 300 1/2

South Ewing, Dallas, Texas.

Before we went to his apartment, or the apartment, I told him

being from out of town that I didn't know much, but that I had

heard that Ruby was in the gun running business. He said that Ruby

wasn't actually buying and selling weapons. That people in higher

positions made the arrangements for the buying and selling of

weapons. That Ruby was mainly the go-between for delivering the

money and making arrangements for the storage of the weapons until

they were shipped out.

During the course of the evening he made the statement several

times that, "if you want to stay healthy, don't say anything to

anybody in Dallas about the assassination unless you're damn sure

you know who you're talking to."

He then said that there were a lot of people in Dallas who were

out to "get" him because he knows too much. ?

One of the strangest things that he did was to drive on East

Jefferson to a used car lot and stop. There were two men inside

the office and he went in and talked to them. I stayed in the car

and could see them through a window of the office. He was in there

only a few minutes. His car was a light blue Oldsmobile 66 model.

When he came out of the office he got into a gray Olds sitting on

the lot and he drove it onto the drive stopping just before he

entered the street--he motioned to me--I was watching him. I got

out of the blue Olds and he took me back to my car in the gray

Olds. ?

On the way to my car across town, he kept repeating there's a

lot more to this (the assassination) than they'll ever know. In

taking me to my car he cut across to Ft. Worth Avenue. While

driving slowly along he pointed out certain private clubs--saying

that he wasn't allowed in one or the other. My first thought was

that he was trying to give me the impression that he was

knowledgeable about the workings of the Dallas underworld.

However, it really seems that he was using a delaying measure--

since it took from 10:00 p.m. until 11:15 p.m. to drive me to my

car--an ordinary 15 minute drive at that time.

When I got out of his car at mine he said, "I'll call you

tomorrow." Earlier in the evening he had implied he was going to

give me more information. I had given him a number to reach me by.

Needless to say I did not hear from him after the incident that


I had locked my car when I parked it. When I got into it I

turned the key over to start the engine. At this point there was a

muffled type explosion and then smoke came out the sides of the

hood. The hood had a double latch and didn't blow. Fire was

coming through the air vents under the dash and a pillow was

burning inside the car.

I jumped out of the car and raised the hood. The engine, hoses,

firewall and even under the bell housing was all ablaze. Several

persons came up and someone called the fire department. A man

named Bill Booken was walking by at about the time it happened.

The fire department used 2 cans of chemical to extinguish the fire.

This was one of the hottest fires I had ever seen. There was no

smell of gasoline before or after, there was no back fire as the

car had not started and afterwards the gas lines were checked and

there were no leaks. There was an air breather on the car and in

fact, there was no mechanical reason for the explosion.

This happened at 4625 Ross Avenue. Mr. Booken took me to

Anderson's Restaurant at 4909 Ross Avenue where I called my wife

and she arranged for my brother Duane to come after me. I didn't

know that I had been injured until I felt the warm blood running

down my shirt after my brother picked me up. I had lost quite a

lot of blood by the time I went to the emergency room. I was there

for three hours. A police report was made. I had received 5

puncture type wounds in the chest area. One vein had been severed

and had to be tied and stitches taken in the wounds. X-rays were

also made. I went to our family physician the following day and

had the stitches removed the following Monday. It was never

completely determined what hit me. Another close call! The doctor

at the emergency room said I was lucky the wounds had not been

lower and our family physician said I was lucky the wounds were not

in the neck. So . . . I suppose I'm just lucky all the way round!