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Saturday, December 20, 2014
LAPD Beat up On Protesters, Including ‘Pregnant Woman’ They Arrested!
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/19374844
Thursday, May 23, 2013
Monday, March 25, 2013
Stop AB666 – Intersection cameras are really about survelliance and MONEY
What does AB666 Do?
>Eliminates citizens rights to a trial if they get a red light camera ticket
>Makes the vehicle owner responsible for the ticket even when someone else is driving
>Sets up kangaroo “administrative hearing” courts run by those running the ticketing program
>Requires that no evidence other than the ticket itself is needed to convict the accused
>Makes the ticket itself prima facie evidence which forces the accused to prove their innocence rather than the current system of “innocent until proven guilty”.
>Eliminates the right to face your accuser
>Eliminates the right to discovery
>Requires defendants to pay a fee if they want their case heard in court
(but without the full protections they have now)
>Expands the use of photo enforcement to other traffic violations
Even if you never get a red-light camera ticket, you are getting ripped off. If you drive on the streets of Los Angeles, you are less safe than you could be otherwise. The City of Los Angeles’ Photo Red-Light Program is a waste of taxpayer dollars and reduces safety for motorists and pedestrians. Here’s why:
1. Engineering countermeasures are a much more effective and economical solution to reduce red-light related collisions.
Most red light running is unintentional and caused by yellow light times that are too short or other engineering deficiencies.
Yellow times in Los Angeles are currently based on the posted speed limit but should be based on the actual speed of traffic approaching the intersection. Lengthening the yellow signal to the proper time will reduce violations and collisions as much as 50% or more.
Lengthening the all-red phase prevents accidents by making sure the intersection is clear before cross traffic is released. Some major intersections in Los Angeles have all-red times less than ½ second, and need to be closer to 2 – 2.5 seconds.
The most severe accidents are caused by impairment, distraction and fatigue which the red-light cameras can’t prevent.
If the city improved the signal timing and fixed any other engineering deficiencies, accidents and violations would drop and there would be no need for photo enforcement. They are spending your money and giving out tens of thousands of tickets for no reason.
2. The cameras have not improved safety and may have made us less safe.
Contrary to LAPD claims, any improvement in accident statistics is a result of State mandated longer yellow times being implemented when the cameras were installed or a decrease in traffic volume.
At some intersections, red light related accidents disappeared long before the cameras were put in, but the LAPD claims the cameras caused the reduction in accidents.
Red-light cameras can’t reduce the most serious accidents because those are caused by impairment, distraction and fatigue and occur well after the light has turned red. Red-light cameras, if they have any effect at all, only have the possibility of affecting the relatively few drivers who try to “beat the light” and misjudge by a few tenths of a second. In these situations, a sufficient all-red phase will prevent collisions from occurring.
Rear end accidents have increased substantially at some intersections. At Sherman Way and Louise Ave., rear end collisions increased by as much as 90% after the cameras were installed.
3. The City loses over $1 million in taxpayer dollars on the program every year.
This is likely to get worse as cited drivers begin to realize that if they ignore their tickets they won’t be reported to the DMV.
Also, appeals courts in many counties have ruled red light camera evidence to be inadmissible hearsay. It’s only a matter of time before the appeals court in Los Angeles rules similarly.
4. The program is being subsidized by giving out tens of thousands of citations for rolling right turns which rarely cause accidents.
At some intersection approaches rolling-right-turn tickets make up as much as 97% of the citations.
Rolling right turns pose little danger and don’t warrant spending millions of dollars to prevent this behavior. The average number of rolling-right-turn collisions each year was 45 out of an average of approximately 56,000 collisions annually in the City of L.A., which represents just 0.079% of all accidents. About three times as many accidents are caused each year by drivers opening their car door into passing traffic.
The majority of rolling-right-turn collisions resulted in minimal or no injuries, even when pedestrians or bicyclists were involved. There were no fatalities noted due to rolling-right-turns between 2002 and 2009.
The chance that a rolling-right-turn will result in a collision is 0.00029%. This means that a driver would have to make over 345,345 rolling-right-turns before they might be involved in an accident. Drivers who make slow, cautious rolling-right-turns will likely never cause an accident.
5. The cost of the red-light cameras goes far beyond the $1 million of taxpayer dollars wasted every year.
The millions of dollars spent in unnecessary fines and higher insurance rates are unavailable to be spent on local goods and services to grow our economy. If you own a business in L.A., your customers have less money to spend because of the red-light camera program.
Needless ticketing clogs our courts and makes our justice system less available for necessary cases. The Los Angeles Superior Court, where these cases are adjudicated, is facing a backlog of almost a full year.
Unreasonable and unfair enforcement of traffic laws engenders disrespect towards our public officials and the police. Citizens are much more likely to see law enforcement as an adversary rather than an ally which makes it more difficult for the LAPD to obtain the public’s help with more serious crimes and safety matters.
At a time when the City of Los Angeles is slashing essential government services and laying off workers, the Photo Red-Light Program is an inexcusable waste of city and law enforcement resources.
Redflex Traffic Systems, one of the companies behind AB666, is no stranger to controversy. Recently, a slew of their top U.S. Executives (Redflex is an Australian company) were forced to resign over a widening bribery scandal that came to light when a whistle-blower letter by a company executive was sent to the Chicago Tribune disclosing that Redflex officials bribed a top city administrator. Redflex was banned from doing business in Chicago and a deeper investigation has revealed that the Chicago corruption was likely not an isolated incident. We’ve yet to see the full extent of this company’s dirty dealings, as there’s currently a federal criminal probe into the matter, but the corruption scandal isn’t surprising considering the deceitful way these companies have conducted themselves in the past. Red light companies have routinely curried favor with politicians by making huge campaign contributions in order to get legislation passed that is favorable to their interests.
It seems Redflex’s $2000 contribution to Bob Wieckowski’s 2012 assembly campaign was enough to convince the Assembly Member to do their bidding. Apparently it doesn’t take much to sell out the people you were elected to represent. We’re still checking to see if Wieckowski took any Reflex money while he was on the City Council in Fremont where Redflex has the contract for the city’s red light camera program. We’ll keep you posted.
By the way, just consider for a moment how bad you must be to get kicked out of Chicago for corruption.
http://saferstreetsla.org/
http://stopab666.org/
As always, I highly recommend two great websites, HighwayRobbery.net and HelpIgotAticket.com for those ticketed in California.
http://libertyfight.com/2013/CA_introduces_ab666_to_fleece_motorists_and_steal_their_liberty.html
>Eliminates citizens rights to a trial if they get a red light camera ticket
>Makes the vehicle owner responsible for the ticket even when someone else is driving
>Sets up kangaroo “administrative hearing” courts run by those running the ticketing program
>Requires that no evidence other than the ticket itself is needed to convict the accused
>Makes the ticket itself prima facie evidence which forces the accused to prove their innocence rather than the current system of “innocent until proven guilty”.
>Eliminates the right to face your accuser
>Eliminates the right to discovery
>Requires defendants to pay a fee if they want their case heard in court
(but without the full protections they have now)
>Expands the use of photo enforcement to other traffic violations
Even if you never get a red-light camera ticket, you are getting ripped off. If you drive on the streets of Los Angeles, you are less safe than you could be otherwise. The City of Los Angeles’ Photo Red-Light Program is a waste of taxpayer dollars and reduces safety for motorists and pedestrians. Here’s why:
The FACTS
1. Engineering countermeasures are a much more effective and economical solution to reduce red-light related collisions.
Most red light running is unintentional and caused by yellow light times that are too short or other engineering deficiencies.
Yellow times in Los Angeles are currently based on the posted speed limit but should be based on the actual speed of traffic approaching the intersection. Lengthening the yellow signal to the proper time will reduce violations and collisions as much as 50% or more.
Lengthening the all-red phase prevents accidents by making sure the intersection is clear before cross traffic is released. Some major intersections in Los Angeles have all-red times less than ½ second, and need to be closer to 2 – 2.5 seconds.
The most severe accidents are caused by impairment, distraction and fatigue which the red-light cameras can’t prevent.
If the city improved the signal timing and fixed any other engineering deficiencies, accidents and violations would drop and there would be no need for photo enforcement. They are spending your money and giving out tens of thousands of tickets for no reason.
2. The cameras have not improved safety and may have made us less safe.
Contrary to LAPD claims, any improvement in accident statistics is a result of State mandated longer yellow times being implemented when the cameras were installed or a decrease in traffic volume.
At some intersections, red light related accidents disappeared long before the cameras were put in, but the LAPD claims the cameras caused the reduction in accidents.
Red-light cameras can’t reduce the most serious accidents because those are caused by impairment, distraction and fatigue and occur well after the light has turned red. Red-light cameras, if they have any effect at all, only have the possibility of affecting the relatively few drivers who try to “beat the light” and misjudge by a few tenths of a second. In these situations, a sufficient all-red phase will prevent collisions from occurring.
Rear end accidents have increased substantially at some intersections. At Sherman Way and Louise Ave., rear end collisions increased by as much as 90% after the cameras were installed.
3. The City loses over $1 million in taxpayer dollars on the program every year.
This is likely to get worse as cited drivers begin to realize that if they ignore their tickets they won’t be reported to the DMV.
Also, appeals courts in many counties have ruled red light camera evidence to be inadmissible hearsay. It’s only a matter of time before the appeals court in Los Angeles rules similarly.
4. The program is being subsidized by giving out tens of thousands of citations for rolling right turns which rarely cause accidents.
At some intersection approaches rolling-right-turn tickets make up as much as 97% of the citations.
Rolling right turns pose little danger and don’t warrant spending millions of dollars to prevent this behavior. The average number of rolling-right-turn collisions each year was 45 out of an average of approximately 56,000 collisions annually in the City of L.A., which represents just 0.079% of all accidents. About three times as many accidents are caused each year by drivers opening their car door into passing traffic.
The majority of rolling-right-turn collisions resulted in minimal or no injuries, even when pedestrians or bicyclists were involved. There were no fatalities noted due to rolling-right-turns between 2002 and 2009.
The chance that a rolling-right-turn will result in a collision is 0.00029%. This means that a driver would have to make over 345,345 rolling-right-turns before they might be involved in an accident. Drivers who make slow, cautious rolling-right-turns will likely never cause an accident.
5. The cost of the red-light cameras goes far beyond the $1 million of taxpayer dollars wasted every year.
The millions of dollars spent in unnecessary fines and higher insurance rates are unavailable to be spent on local goods and services to grow our economy. If you own a business in L.A., your customers have less money to spend because of the red-light camera program.
Needless ticketing clogs our courts and makes our justice system less available for necessary cases. The Los Angeles Superior Court, where these cases are adjudicated, is facing a backlog of almost a full year.
Unreasonable and unfair enforcement of traffic laws engenders disrespect towards our public officials and the police. Citizens are much more likely to see law enforcement as an adversary rather than an ally which makes it more difficult for the LAPD to obtain the public’s help with more serious crimes and safety matters.
At a time when the City of Los Angeles is slashing essential government services and laying off workers, the Photo Red-Light Program is an inexcusable waste of city and law enforcement resources.
Redflex Traffic Systems, one of the companies behind AB666, is no stranger to controversy. Recently, a slew of their top U.S. Executives (Redflex is an Australian company) were forced to resign over a widening bribery scandal that came to light when a whistle-blower letter by a company executive was sent to the Chicago Tribune disclosing that Redflex officials bribed a top city administrator. Redflex was banned from doing business in Chicago and a deeper investigation has revealed that the Chicago corruption was likely not an isolated incident. We’ve yet to see the full extent of this company’s dirty dealings, as there’s currently a federal criminal probe into the matter, but the corruption scandal isn’t surprising considering the deceitful way these companies have conducted themselves in the past. Red light companies have routinely curried favor with politicians by making huge campaign contributions in order to get legislation passed that is favorable to their interests.
It seems Redflex’s $2000 contribution to Bob Wieckowski’s 2012 assembly campaign was enough to convince the Assembly Member to do their bidding. Apparently it doesn’t take much to sell out the people you were elected to represent. We’re still checking to see if Wieckowski took any Reflex money while he was on the City Council in Fremont where Redflex has the contract for the city’s red light camera program. We’ll keep you posted.
By the way, just consider for a moment how bad you must be to get kicked out of Chicago for corruption.
http://saferstreetsla.org/
http://stopab666.org/
As always, I highly recommend two great websites, HighwayRobbery.net and HelpIgotAticket.com for those ticketed in California.
http://libertyfight.com/2013/CA_introduces_ab666_to_fleece_motorists_and_steal_their_liberty.html
Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Light on the Dark Side of Dorner’s Rampage
On September 10, 2012 the Los Angeles Times published an article with the headline: “LAPD to hold meetings on use of force policies.”
Top Los Angeles police officials announced those community meetings to counter growing criticism about videoed brutality incidents involving LA police officers in the preceding months, that article noted.
On November 24, 2012 The Daily Beast posted an article with the headline: “In Los Angeles, Questions of Police Brutality Dog LAPD” reporting abuse incidents by officers of that department placed under federal oversight between 2001 and 2009 after repeated brutality and corruption scandals.
Over two months after that Daily Beast posting about LAPD brutality a fired LAPD officer unleashed a murderous rampage as revenge against his claimed unfair firing by the LAPD.
That former LAPD cop, military veteran Christopher Dorner, claimed his attack campaign was retaliation against retaliation LAPD personnel directed against him for his reporting a 2007 brutality incident he observed while on duty.
LAPD officials found Dorner’s brutality claim against a policewoman unfounded and fired him for filing false statements. The father of the alleged victim said his mentally ill son confirmed Dorner’s account.
LA police officials contend that man sustained facial injuries from falling into some bushes while resisting arrest by Dorner, not from the female officer’s kick.
Despite the recent record of brutality detailed in news coverage last fall, a New York Times article on the Dorner rampage inferred brutality by Los Angeles police – brutality that sparked two of America’s most destructive urban riots – was not a current problem.
The last sentence in the seventh paragraph of that February 7, 2013 New York Times article stated: “Mr. Dorner laid out grievances against a police department that he said remained riddled with racism and corruption, a reference to a chapter of the department’s history that, in the view of many people, was swept aside long ago.”
That ‘view’ of many people cited in the NY Times article obviously did not include the views of the dozens participating in an October 2012 demonstration against police brutality outside the LAPD headquarters.
On October 22, 2012 the Los Angeles Times published an article with the headline: “Downtown L.A. streets closed by protest at LAPD headquarters.”
Yes, the 1992 riots that rocked LA following the state court acquittal of the four LA police officers charged in the videoed savaging of Rodney King – a disturbance causing over $1-billion in damages and claiming 53 lives – arguably qualifies as long-ago.
But long-ago does not apply to incidents within the past year like the woman kicked in her groin by a female LAPD officer in July 2012 who died minutes later while hog-tied inside a patrol car.
That ‘view’ cited in the NY Times article is not shared by victims of the incidents triggering those LAPD brass community meetings like the skate boarder suckered punched by police, the nurse slammed to the ground by two officers who gave each other a fist-bump for their take-down and the handcuffed man shot by police.
While ‘many people’ certainly believe or want-to-believe LAPD brutality is long gone, perhaps by reforms implemented during that federal oversight, news media accounts pushing that view without balance of companion context comprise an element (albeit small) in the constant framing of police brutality as isolated incidents instead of long standing, systemic procedure by police across America.
At least that NY Times article referenced racism and brutality unlike many media entities that reported Dorner’s rampage without providing context beyond his crazed reaction to his firing.
The March 1968 Kerner Commission Report on sixties-era urban riots – the majority triggered by police abuse incidents including the deadly 1965 LA Watts Riots – criticized the news media for failing to “analyze and report adequately on racial matters” in America that included coverage of festering grievances like police brutality.
Compounding context-deficient coverage, news media reportage on police brutality rarely examines the central role played by prosecutors in perpetuating the problem.
The Los Angeles DA’s Office pushed one case protecting alleged police misconduct all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, where in 2006 that court’s conservative majority issued a ruling experts said eroded protections for whistle-blowing public employees.
The case involved a veteran LA prosecutor who said supervisors retaliated against him arising from his exposing improprieties by a deputy during a drug investigation. Those supervisors pursued the drug prosecution despite those improprieties and then bashed the whistle-blower for providing the defense details of the improprieties as required by law.
That 11/12 Daily Beast article began with an anecdote about LA city prosecutors declining to charge officers caught lying about a December 2010 incident where a woman was beaten and tazed by four officers, one of whom videoed the incident.
Fired Officer Dorner alleged that his LAPD problems began in July 2007 when his training officer, a female, kicked a man during an arrest outside a hotel. Dorner claimed that training officer and their immediate supervisor compelled him to fudge his official report omitting the kicking, according to court findings.
LAPD officials found Dorner guilty of making false statements relying largely on an Internal Affairs investigation. The IA investigator interviewed the training officer and two hotel employees but neither Dorner nor the victim according to an October 2011 California state appellate court ruling that upheld a trial court ruling rejecting Dorner’s appeal of his 2009 LAPD firing.
LAPD officials, in their administrative proceeding, faulted Dorner for failing to immediately report the alleged kicking incident. Officials brushed aside Dorner’s stated fears of backlash for exposing that alleged misconduct and his having quickly reported that incident privately to two LAPD supervisors he knew whom he also had told about racial slurs directed at him during his police academy training.
Officials also claimed Dorner manufactured the brutality complaint to maliciously deflate an adverse performance evaluation he suspected he would receive from his training officer.
LAPD officials have initiated a reexamination of Dorner’s firing since the rampage began.
Dorner, in an online manifesto posted before his rampage, criticized the fact that officers involved in both the Rodney King and other brutality scandals were promoted not penalized.
An analysis of the Dorner incident prepared by Drexel University professor George Ciccariello-Maher and Mike King, a PhD candidate at UC Santa Cruz reminded that brutality against non-whites remains a “structural function” of the LAPD.
“It is the commonness of excuses for police abuse/murder, the erasure of the victims as collateral damage that should be highlighted when trying to make sense of this broken, rogue, former Los Angeles cop,” Ciccariello-Maher and King wrote.
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2013/02/11/light-on-the-dark-side-of-dorners-rampage/
Top Los Angeles police officials announced those community meetings to counter growing criticism about videoed brutality incidents involving LA police officers in the preceding months, that article noted.
On November 24, 2012 The Daily Beast posted an article with the headline: “In Los Angeles, Questions of Police Brutality Dog LAPD” reporting abuse incidents by officers of that department placed under federal oversight between 2001 and 2009 after repeated brutality and corruption scandals.
Over two months after that Daily Beast posting about LAPD brutality a fired LAPD officer unleashed a murderous rampage as revenge against his claimed unfair firing by the LAPD.
That former LAPD cop, military veteran Christopher Dorner, claimed his attack campaign was retaliation against retaliation LAPD personnel directed against him for his reporting a 2007 brutality incident he observed while on duty.
LAPD officials found Dorner’s brutality claim against a policewoman unfounded and fired him for filing false statements. The father of the alleged victim said his mentally ill son confirmed Dorner’s account.
LA police officials contend that man sustained facial injuries from falling into some bushes while resisting arrest by Dorner, not from the female officer’s kick.
Despite the recent record of brutality detailed in news coverage last fall, a New York Times article on the Dorner rampage inferred brutality by Los Angeles police – brutality that sparked two of America’s most destructive urban riots – was not a current problem.
The last sentence in the seventh paragraph of that February 7, 2013 New York Times article stated: “Mr. Dorner laid out grievances against a police department that he said remained riddled with racism and corruption, a reference to a chapter of the department’s history that, in the view of many people, was swept aside long ago.”
That ‘view’ of many people cited in the NY Times article obviously did not include the views of the dozens participating in an October 2012 demonstration against police brutality outside the LAPD headquarters.
On October 22, 2012 the Los Angeles Times published an article with the headline: “Downtown L.A. streets closed by protest at LAPD headquarters.”
Yes, the 1992 riots that rocked LA following the state court acquittal of the four LA police officers charged in the videoed savaging of Rodney King – a disturbance causing over $1-billion in damages and claiming 53 lives – arguably qualifies as long-ago.
But long-ago does not apply to incidents within the past year like the woman kicked in her groin by a female LAPD officer in July 2012 who died minutes later while hog-tied inside a patrol car.
That ‘view’ cited in the NY Times article is not shared by victims of the incidents triggering those LAPD brass community meetings like the skate boarder suckered punched by police, the nurse slammed to the ground by two officers who gave each other a fist-bump for their take-down and the handcuffed man shot by police.
While ‘many people’ certainly believe or want-to-believe LAPD brutality is long gone, perhaps by reforms implemented during that federal oversight, news media accounts pushing that view without balance of companion context comprise an element (albeit small) in the constant framing of police brutality as isolated incidents instead of long standing, systemic procedure by police across America.
At least that NY Times article referenced racism and brutality unlike many media entities that reported Dorner’s rampage without providing context beyond his crazed reaction to his firing.
The March 1968 Kerner Commission Report on sixties-era urban riots – the majority triggered by police abuse incidents including the deadly 1965 LA Watts Riots – criticized the news media for failing to “analyze and report adequately on racial matters” in America that included coverage of festering grievances like police brutality.
Compounding context-deficient coverage, news media reportage on police brutality rarely examines the central role played by prosecutors in perpetuating the problem.
The Los Angeles DA’s Office pushed one case protecting alleged police misconduct all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, where in 2006 that court’s conservative majority issued a ruling experts said eroded protections for whistle-blowing public employees.
The case involved a veteran LA prosecutor who said supervisors retaliated against him arising from his exposing improprieties by a deputy during a drug investigation. Those supervisors pursued the drug prosecution despite those improprieties and then bashed the whistle-blower for providing the defense details of the improprieties as required by law.
That 11/12 Daily Beast article began with an anecdote about LA city prosecutors declining to charge officers caught lying about a December 2010 incident where a woman was beaten and tazed by four officers, one of whom videoed the incident.
Fired Officer Dorner alleged that his LAPD problems began in July 2007 when his training officer, a female, kicked a man during an arrest outside a hotel. Dorner claimed that training officer and their immediate supervisor compelled him to fudge his official report omitting the kicking, according to court findings.
LAPD officials found Dorner guilty of making false statements relying largely on an Internal Affairs investigation. The IA investigator interviewed the training officer and two hotel employees but neither Dorner nor the victim according to an October 2011 California state appellate court ruling that upheld a trial court ruling rejecting Dorner’s appeal of his 2009 LAPD firing.
LAPD officials, in their administrative proceeding, faulted Dorner for failing to immediately report the alleged kicking incident. Officials brushed aside Dorner’s stated fears of backlash for exposing that alleged misconduct and his having quickly reported that incident privately to two LAPD supervisors he knew whom he also had told about racial slurs directed at him during his police academy training.
Officials also claimed Dorner manufactured the brutality complaint to maliciously deflate an adverse performance evaluation he suspected he would receive from his training officer.
LAPD officials have initiated a reexamination of Dorner’s firing since the rampage began.
Dorner, in an online manifesto posted before his rampage, criticized the fact that officers involved in both the Rodney King and other brutality scandals were promoted not penalized.
An analysis of the Dorner incident prepared by Drexel University professor George Ciccariello-Maher and Mike King, a PhD candidate at UC Santa Cruz reminded that brutality against non-whites remains a “structural function” of the LAPD.
“It is the commonness of excuses for police abuse/murder, the erasure of the victims as collateral damage that should be highlighted when trying to make sense of this broken, rogue, former Los Angeles cop,” Ciccariello-Maher and King wrote.
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2013/02/11/light-on-the-dark-side-of-dorners-rampage/
Friday, February 8, 2013
LAPD guns down innocent people in two separate incidents
By Tracy Connor, Staff Writer, NBC News
Published 6:30 p.m. ET: They were in the wrong car at the wrong time.
Two women who were delivering newspapers in Torrance, Calif., early Thursday were shot by jittery Los Angeles police officers who mistakenly thought cop-hunting fugitive Christopher Dorner might be in their vehicle, NBCLosAngeles.com reported.
One was shot once and the other twice; both were were expected to survive. Police did not release their names.
REUTERS/Patrick T. Fallon
Police detectives investigate a shooting scene involving a black Honda pickup truck in Torrance, Calif. Police opened fire on the vehicle in a case of mistaken identity while searching for former Los Angeles police officer Christopher Dorner.
The LAPD detectives were in the neighborhood to watch over a home they believed Dorner might target. Hours earlier, the fired cop had allegedly ambushed officers in two other cities, killing one of them.
Across the region, cops on high alert were on the lookout for Dorner's dark-colored Nissan truck. In the predawn dark, they saw a blue pickup rolling through the streets with no headlights on.
It's unclear what happened next, but LAPD Chief Charlie Beck confirmed the officers fired on the vehicle, hitting the two occupants. He said it was a tragic case of "mistaken identity."
Follow @NBCNewsUS Less than a half-hour later, cops fired on another vehicle in Torrance, just two blocks away from the
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16888732-women-shot-by-cops-were-just-delivering-papers?lite
Published 6:30 p.m. ET: They were in the wrong car at the wrong time.
Two women who were delivering newspapers in Torrance, Calif., early Thursday were shot by jittery Los Angeles police officers who mistakenly thought cop-hunting fugitive Christopher Dorner might be in their vehicle, NBCLosAngeles.com reported.
One was shot once and the other twice; both were were expected to survive. Police did not release their names.
REUTERS/Patrick T. Fallon
Police detectives investigate a shooting scene involving a black Honda pickup truck in Torrance, Calif. Police opened fire on the vehicle in a case of mistaken identity while searching for former Los Angeles police officer Christopher Dorner.
The LAPD detectives were in the neighborhood to watch over a home they believed Dorner might target. Hours earlier, the fired cop had allegedly ambushed officers in two other cities, killing one of them.
Across the region, cops on high alert were on the lookout for Dorner's dark-colored Nissan truck. In the predawn dark, they saw a blue pickup rolling through the streets with no headlights on.
It's unclear what happened next, but LAPD Chief Charlie Beck confirmed the officers fired on the vehicle, hitting the two occupants. He said it was a tragic case of "mistaken identity."
Follow @NBCNewsUS Less than a half-hour later, cops fired on another vehicle in Torrance, just two blocks away from the
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/07/16888732-women-shot-by-cops-were-just-delivering-papers?lite
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